Winter power

[krracing]

What solutions have you looked into as far as intercoolers go Sharkie? and Clip for that matter!?

I'm quite interested in this too... S3 seems the cheaper option, but APR make a very good product. What else is out there? Would be so cool if Forge make a "Twintercooler" product for the Tiguan

Do you know of anyone that's done the intercooler in the Tig?

Cheers.

[Sharkie]

Essentially any GTI intercooler upgrade will work. The only bit that requires some work is the piping which is slightly different (and I mean very slightly)

So the Forge option is useable .... however, I know of a few people using (or that have used and ditched) the Forge intercoolers that experience significant boost pressure drops ... in the order of 4-6PSI ... so beware ...

I'm keen on a S3 upgrade and will do this if I can find a local S3 intercooler (from somebody who has upgraded from that), otherwise it will be APR for me.

[krracing]

the s3 intercooler on ecs tuning is only US$337 - compared to the US$1049 for the APR... The APR might perform better, but not 3x better!!
If I had the bucks, maybe then...

As far as Forge goes - i was referring to their "Twintercooler" system - a secondary intercooler ont op of the standard one - quite a cool concept.
see link below:
Forge Motorsport | Alloy Fabrication

Apparently quite large gains from this

Do you know exactly what the issue is with hoses and the S3 kit? I'm VERY curious...

[krracing]

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the pipe splits into two and goes to each intercooler, before diverging back into one on the other end
dyno graph:
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/media...tock_power.pdf

[Sharkie]

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the pipe splits into two and goes to each intercooler, before diverging back into one on the other end
dyno graph:
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/media...tock_power.pdf

Yeah, I know how the twincooler work and have no issues with the concept. I do have an issue with the fact that a few people (not all) have had boost losses with the Forge stuff. It seems more a manufacturing problem rather than a design problem ....

[Sharkie]

the s3 intercooler on ecs tuning is only US$337 - compared to the US$1049 for the APR... The APR might perform better, but not 3x better!!
If I had the bucks, maybe then...

As far as Forge goes - i was referring to their "Twintercooler" system - a secondary intercooler ont op of the standard one - quite a cool concept.
see link below:
Forge Motorsport | Alloy Fabrication

Apparently quite large gains from this

Do you know exactly what the issue is with hoses and the S3 kit? I'm VERY curious...

I believe the hoses are a bit too short and have slightly different bends. Can easily be custom modified to work. Which is why I'm looking for a S3 cooler atm .....

[krracing]

ahhh, so it's forge products in general then.... gotcha - i'll probably stay away from that then, cheers saved me the hassle

let me know how you go with the S3 intercooler Johan - I (as you are) am very curious! How do you propose lengthening the hoses, if they're too short? There doesn't appear to be any aftermarket hose kits for the Tig, as far as i know at least

thanks mate

[Pullstarter]

ahhh, so it's forge products in general then.... gotcha - i'll probably stay away from that then, cheers saved me the hassle

let me know how you go with the S3 intercooler Johan - I (as you are) am very curious! How do you propose lengthening the hoses, if they're too short? There doesn't appear to be any aftermarket hose kits for the Tig, as far as i know at least

thanks mate

You'd have to go the silicone hose/coupler route and trial and error I think.

[Sharkie]

ahhh, so it's forge products in general then.... gotcha - i'll probably stay away from that then, cheers saved me the hassle

Not all the Forge stuff. I had lots of Forge kit (piping, strut brace & diverter) on my GTI and it was all good. The problems I've been hearing about are related to their intercoolers.

I'd still buy stuff from them, just not ICs .....

[PassatB6]

Good to have some cold moist mornings and evenings back again. I reckon it's got to be good for at least another 10kw, if not more compared to a summer's day. Amazing the difference it makes to the Tig.

I find the same with my Passat with a 2.0T engine. Turbos are less efficient in summer and that is probably the main difference though aircon could contribute some.