Which upgrade should I do first

[tigger73]

I Agree! I have chosen not to tune my 2012 RS as the way it delivers the power is so different to our Tiguans with AWD...
I feel that it will break traction too easily, thus making any gains in power useless from off the line...

Same problem as all the GTI boys have with fwd and 200kW - easily loses traction in 1st and 2nd. That's why a tuned Tig is quicker off the lights as it can actually get the power down to the road whereas the other just spin their wheels before getting going.

Solution is RS4, Golf R or something else with AWD... ahh maybe a Tiguan

[Martin]

Hey Martin, did you have any issues getting the Stage 1 APR on your Octavia? Did they bench tune it, given it's a 2012?

I too have an Occy and am seriously thinking about chipping it, but am concerned how the extra power will be handled by the front wheel drive only? I find some serious traction control and torque steer already with the 147, let alone the APR 190kw?

No problem getting it at all mate, off the shelf...
I believe they have two programs, one for the TFSI and one for TSI (much better fuel pump)
They flashed it and did a few operational checks but no tuning was required
(remembering all modern engines with ECU run on a closed loop anyway)

Traction in 1st off the mark is tricky post the ECU upgrade
If you park on the white lines or if the road surface is choppy you will be in trouble
On a good surface, you only use 30%~40% throttle, get it rolling and up to ~3000rpm and then let it rip
You will still be much faster than stock and surprise many others around you

The midrange torque increase is far more effective than the peek power increase
In all other gears, the ability to drive on torque and effortlessly overtake quickly is just wonderful
(and in my opinion, the less time I spend on the wrong side of the road the better)
The APR stage 1 ECU update will take 1 second off your 0 to 100kmph time
There is no other way I can get that improvement by spending only $1,250 (xmas discount)

When reving out, past peak power, the top end seems worse than stock
I am currently short shifting at 6,000rpm with the steering wheel paddle and driving on the torque
I'm putting the exhaust down pipe, Stage II ECU and cold air intakes on the car next week to help address this
(Also doing roll bars, springs and lower control arms - one day this car will become my club racer)

I am not experiencing torque steer
I've tried to induce it but I'm pretty disciplined (through Kart and club racing)
(I've also driven a BMW M3 and a V8 Supercar around Eastern Creek)
Off the throttle before turn in, wait until after the apex before applying throttle, you'll be fine
(If you are using large amounts of throttle while turning in, you are not cornering hard and are unlikely to get torque steer)
If you put a turn or more on the wheel and plant the right foot from stationary I would expect that to be ugly
I thought the lack of torque steer was one of the WAG benefits (compared to others like Mazda 3 MPS)

This is the most powerful, quickest and best behaved FWD car I've ever owned

[james928]

2.0 TFSI Tiguan use the MED17.# DME which is tuner protected via OBD2. Bench flash no worries with the right gear. TriCore Siemens 1766/96CPU Ive done well over 50 of these in the last year. GTi has the same DME all be it with completely different internal file compile. R used MED9.5 old school. As far as I am aware all the non-R 2.0 model range use the MED17.# family controller now.