Tuning / performance update

[DieselTig]

I will give it a go and see what I can find.
Thanks

[Sharkie]

Speak to Guy at Harding Performance .......

http://www.hp.net.au/



Oettinger Tig TDI info

http://www.oettinger.de/en/products-..._tuning-1.html

103kw/320NM => 125kw/370NM

[DieselTig]

Speak to Guy at Harding Performance .......

http://www.hp.net.au/



Oettinger Tig TDI info

http://www.oettinger.de/en/products-..._tuning-1.html

103kw/320NM => 125kw/370NM

Thanks Sharkie. that looks more like it.
I need to find someone in Melbourne that I can take the vehicle and do it.
I spoke to volkspower in Melbourne but they are very priceyyyy @ $1800 to flash the eprom considering it only takes 20 minutes to do.
I also spoke to Audi Spares and they are @ $950 but he doesnt know yet if GIAC have a flash for it yet.

Keep you posted.

[Sharkie]

Speak to Guy for some more details. The Oettinger reflash includes a full drivetrain warranty which the others don't. To cut costs I believe you can opt out of that though.

Revo and GIAC don't do diesels I believe, neither does APR.

Other options are DPChip for instance

http://www.dpchip.com.au/ these are plugins though and I have some reservations about that ...... it does have some good write ups and are around $1200 I believe.

Tiguan 103kw/320NM => 124kw/368NM

[DieselTig]

Speak to Guy for some more details. The Oettinger reflash includes a full drivetrain warranty which the others don't. To cut costs I believe you can opt out of that though.

Revo and GIAC don't do diesels I believe, neither does APR.

Other options are DPChip for instance

http://www.dpchip.com.au/ these are plugins though and I have some reservations about that ...... it does have some good write ups and are around $1200 I believe.

Tiguan 103kw/320NM => 124kw/368NM

I like the idea of full drivetrain warranty and I guess the costs become less of an issue then. I will be in touch with Guy today to discuss this further.

thanx sharkie.

[DieselTig]

Spoke to HP and this can be done here in Melbourne and the result is 125kw and 370nm. I have though seen around quotes for increase in power and torque to about 30% and this is nowhere near it. I would expect around 400 newtons and at least 130kw.
I will continue researching, I am pretty new to turbo diesels and have a lot to learn.

[Arctra]

Hey DieselTig, in your investigations would you mind asking whether the TDI auto box is the same as the 147's auto box? If they are different, then you may want to investigate whether the box can handle it. I recall reading somewhere that the TDI engine was specifically de-tuned a bit to prevent the auto box from overheating.

I'm not trying to scare monger here. I am interested in getting the tune done too, but not at the expense of my transmission. It's nice that Oettinger offer a warranty on the drivetrain, but as with all warranties it is for a finite period after which the box longevity is unknown. This is a concern for me as I intend keeping my Tig for quite a while. Maybe one of the tuners can weigh in on this topic?

[NZTiguan]

Hey DieselTig, in your investigations would you mind asking whether the TDI auto box is the same as the 147's auto box? If they are different, then you may want to investigate whether the box can handle it. I recall reading somewhere that the TDI engine was specifically de-tuned a bit to prevent the auto box from overheating.

I'm not trying to scare monger here. I am interested in getting the tune done too, but not at the expense of my transmission. It's nice that Oettinger offer a warranty on the drivetrain, but as with all warranties it is for a finite period after which the box longevity is unknown. This is a concern for me as I intend keeping my Tig for quite a while. Maybe one of the tuners can weigh in on this topic?

Remember that in Europe they're already putting 125kw 350nm through the tiptronic box in the 125kw diesel. I understand there's been an issue about the "manual transmission" coping with the torque but NOT the auto. One of the GB guys had his diesel manual Tig replaced with an auto cos he did a lot of towing and it wasn't handling it too well. This was in the early days of Tig though !!

Cheers

[DieselTig]

Now that you have mentioned whether the auto can handle extra newtons, I will investigate this. On the subject of warranty you are right, it has nothing to do with the longivity of the drivetrain. I know for a fact that Xtrail auto is detuned because the auto cannot handle the extra torque and power, so I will look into this and keep you posted.

[DieselTig]

I have been doing a bit of research on net sure enough the 125kw diesel in europe is only offered in manual box. Obviously the extra torque maybe too much for the tiptronic. For ARCTRA's question about the 147 box, I have made some inquiries and yes it is the same as the diesel. But the 147 produces only 280 newtons in comparison to the 320 the diesel produces. So the petrol has more power but at less torque than the diesel.
I am now starting to have second thoughts about the retuning, it maybe beyond the tiptronic's capabilities. I guess I would do this if I get the ok from someone within VW confirming the max torque design specifications of this box. Reseach continues..........