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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskywallah View Post
    Bench extract took less than hour, dealer on hols for Easter, now we're up coast then straight to NZ.
    So the file is probably ready but I can't get it it for 2 weeks.
    The foreplay is good though
    Which year/model of Tig is your car? I really hope we have the same model/ECU code so I don't have to wait

    Or perhaps Guy_H knows the model since you have access to the file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaotickelly View Post
    Which year/model of Tig is your car? I really hope we have the same model/ECU code so I don't have to wait

    Or perhaps Guy_H knows the model since you have access to the file?
    PM Me your ECU number & software version & I'll check for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaywireTig View Post
    Just out of curiosity... By just tuning the software, how can one ascertain the increase in power... Do all cars after getting ECU tuned get a dyno run?

    Also, if cars are bench tuned or if 'set maps' are just 'uploaded' into the the ECU, without running the car on dyno... Does that mean the maps are not 'custom tuned'? Meaning, "oh it's a GTI, use this GTI map. A Tiguan? Use this Tiguan map." does it work like that?

    If not, what does 'custom tune' mean? Does it mean, the tuner will take into consideration any hardware upgrades u might have and tune accordingly? Even without a dyno run to test a 'before' and perhaps different 'after' scenarios?

    Getting a little bit confused. :p any advise and enlightenment of knowledge for learning appreciated - especially from a tuner's perspective or buyers experience. Thanks!
    Hi,
    Custom tuning is done on a Dyno. It's specific to that car with that air in take mods with that etc etc etc. I had it done on my old Ford and it can be good or can be very bad . Ford don't spend millions of dollars for nothing. A bad tuner with no experience , or a good tuner on a bad day can get it wrong.
    Pretty much all custom tunes start out as a generic tune though. I went from 150awkw to 240awkw with a good tune and change of air filter.

    With VWs it's a bit different. Essentially VW themselves are a tuning house. They take 1 engine and produce 3 or 4 tunes and sell one as a low spec model and another as a GTI. Gross over simplification but that's the gist of it.
    APR do a similar job . They take those 3 or 4 tunes, maybe add a little spice and sell them to us at about 1/3rd the cost that VW charge to buy the higher spec engine.
    But of course you can't always just buy the upgraded engine ; sometimes it comes with leather and comfort and ....
    So, no, I don't suddenly have a Polo/Golf/Tig GTI but I have the guts of the same engine and a big smile on my face for not a lot of coin.
    I also have potentially no warranty,
    nor do I have a Dyno graph for my car; just a generic one measured during testing by APR.

    Bench tuning specifically in this case means they have to get the ECU on the bench to extract the original file. Normally they would just plug into the OBD11 port. Either way the then modify the performance bit of the program leaving the other bits that control the lights etc alone. And put it back on your car.

    Ps. No disrespect to APR. You do a great job; it's why I bought the 118 in the first place.
    Last edited by whiskywallah; 11-04-2012 at 03:50 PM. Reason: Spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_H View Post
    PM Me your ECU number & software version & I'll check for you!
    I haven't benched mine yet, so I wouldn't have any idea.

    Oh... looks like Whiskywallah is a 118, so probably different to my 132...

    ---------- Post added at 05:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:07 PM ----------

    Oh just for those wondering, here's what's required to extract the ECU

    APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

  5. #195
    We just did a new 132kw "locked out" ECU last night.

    No need to stick yours on a bench to get the number, you can read the ECU information with VCDS tool or drop into your nearest APR dealer to get it read out!

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    Ohhh that's good news for me, hopefully I don't have to wait for my ECU code to be developed!

    I don't own a VCDS tool, so I'll just let the experts at Mona Vale do the work

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    All very interesting

    I took my 132kw current model to my local APR rep for the purpose of having the ECU read This information was then forwarded to Brisbane. I am now just waiting for the local APR guys to get the appropriate tool or gizmo to enable the APR tune to be loaded into my ECU without having to remove the same, send it to Brisbane and I would be without the car for 4 or 5 days.

    I've paid the deposit so now just look forward to the process being available in Canberra.

    Any idea of a possible time frame Guy.

    Cheers

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    The new UPD Programmer for CVWC is I believe in transit to us from the US now! Shouldnt be too much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_H View Post
    The new UPD Programmer for CVWC is I believe in transit to us from the US now! Shouldnt be too much longer.
    GOLD!!!!

    Thanks for the quick response; another example of great APR service

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutare 23 View Post
    All very interesting

    I took my 132kw current model to my local APR rep for the purpose of having the ECU read This information was then forwarded to Brisbane. I am now just waiting for the local APR guys to get the appropriate tool or gizmo to enable the APR tune to be loaded into my ECU without having to remove the same, send it to Brisbane and I would be without the car for 4 or 5 days.

    I've paid the deposit so now just look forward to the process being available in Canberra.

    Any idea of a possible time frame Guy.

    Cheers
    how much does it cost for the one in canberra?

    will this void the 3years warranty?

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