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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_H View Post
    Thanks for the response Simon,

    Seeming Tiggy has a DSG car, I think it would benefit us all on how the DSG launch control is changed by remapping the engine - so if you can humor us all & let us know how its done in layman's terms (no need to give trade secrets away).

    I took your suggestion & tried to look up some customers that had your software & the launch control, but could not find anything conclusive.

    http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...tml#post723718

    Brick's Golf R [Archive] - VWGolf.net.au - Australian VW Golf Forum

    I also managed to find several people who have various tunes (including ours) that also had launch that would sometimes activate at over 4000rpm's. I even experienced it once in my new GTI . Can you explain this to us please?

    ---------- Post added at 04:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 PM ----------

    Oh, P.S. We have 3 DSG cars in the Brisbane development fleet, all modified, so we are very well experienced in them - inside out & software - so please feel free to ask me anything about them you like!

    Guy,

    Perhaps we'll have to wait for whoever wants to update their threads to see what the latest DSG light-tune does for them by the looks. Many are in final testing but looking good. Certainly many of the LC we've tested so far are altering and other are being tested now. That's either a lot of bugs in LC's or some other 'magic'. In any event the main point of the light-dsg-tune is that shift patterns are faster, smoother, and quicker reacting - ignoring the LC for a moment. And it's a free inclusion of course with very attractive pricing to begin with, and fully insured of course.

    Sure Tiggy1 why not - if you're game! But those R's you've found will benefit shortly if not already.

    Since you bought it up, Viezu's International R&D and Technical Centre tune cars across the world from Africa to America to Russia, all over Europe, and now here of course. 34 countries now, all being serviced from the Euro R&D and Technical Centre at Viezu HQ dealing with all countries so their teams and decades of experience across the globe can assist me, a little I'm sure if ever I need it, but thanks very much for your kind offer.

    I might take you up on it with my Porsche DE1 - Viezu are coding specialists, we don't manufacture components, so if you can get the a TPC racing turbo kit I might be interested mate. Do you still stock the TPC racing turbo kits?

    Brick's 'R' prompted a whole new R&D program on the Aussie spec 'R' as we had issues earlier this year with our remote tuning device amongst other issues with the files. We then did further R&D on them. These were sorted along with the LC and clients here are reporting 4.7s 0-100 just off the mapping I believe, and that's before the DSG alterations. Oh and mid/low 13's on the 1/4 - again just the mapping on regular 98 fuel. And without the final DSG alterations either. Not sure how that compares to APR and others - some clients tell me it's almost half a second quicker but that sounds a lot - Guy can you assist?

    Tiggi1 we'll have to put yours down the 1/4 strip to find out with these !

    Stay tuned and I'm sure more customers who are forum members will get on here and put their findings up soon enough.

    Cheers

    Simon

    ---------- Post added at 06:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:28 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Pullstarter View Post
    Can I ask why your Tiguan tune nets 40hp (I assume this is calculated on the 147tsi?) when the APR tune nets over 50hp on the 147?
    Hi Pullstarter

    Sure. That's our performance level of tune with no mods. Tech will go harder but they're doing a whole new R&D program for this engine for our motorsport level of mapping soon enough.

    The MED17 2.0TFSi 147 won't allow the ballistic 70+hp/100Nm like the Golf 5 GTi mapping we do just yet, but we're working on it.

    But take dyno figures with a pinch of salt. I understand competitors may see up to 66hp on a stage 1 (with intake, as I understand it) on a Golf 'R' for example. Whereas Viezu's mapping level of tune (no mods) will 'only' see high 40's to 52hp max. But I've just been reading this where you'll see here what our 1/4 mile times are in comparison. You may find it useful.

    http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...-46834-54.html

    Well I say 'comparison' but ours is with no mods, fully insured, and custom written to your requirements, not off the shelf. Any mods you do have will be perfectly written into the coding and just go even quicker. We just need the specs of the hardware, whoever may make it.

    We might be one of the largest and fastest growing tuning brand in the world, but here in Australia we are very new. We've barely launched. Our print media marketing isn't even out yet! Just a few forum ads to start with. You'll see us around a lot more once our dealer network is established shortly, and we're after race teams to sponsor locally in Aus' so stay tuned on that too.

    Happy to assist with any queries at all so please fire away or bounce me an email

    Cheers

    Simon
    simon@viezuaustralia.com.au
    Last edited by ViezuAustralia; 25-11-2011 at 08:56 PM.

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    Thanks for the reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h100vw View Post
    If you ring VW and ask how much an ECU costs, that would go a long way towards explaining why ECUs are not done on exchange.
    Yes ... if only they were like gas cylinders and you could just swap them at a servo or Bunnings.

    ---------- Post added at 09:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:02 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by ViezuAustralia View Post
    We might be one of the largest and fastest growing tuning brand in the world, but here in Australia we are very new. We've barely launched. Our print media marketing isn't even out yet! Just a few forum ads to start with. You'll see us around a lot more once our dealer network is established shortly, and we're after race teams to sponsor locally in Aus' so stay tuned on that too.
    Yes ... nothing like some healthy competition!

    Maybe we will finally see the price of tunes & mods here being more comparable to their overseas HQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViezuAustralia View Post
    Perhaps we'll have to wait for whoever wants to update their threads to see what the latest DSG light-tune does for them by the looks. Many are in final testing but looking good. Certainly many of the LC we've tested so far are altering and other are being tested now. That's either a lot of bugs in LC's or some other 'magic'. In any event the main point of the light-dsg-tune is that shift patterns are faster, smoother, and quicker reacting - ignoring the LC for a moment. And it's a free inclusion of course with very attractive pricing to begin with, and fully insured of course.

    Tiggi1 we'll have to put yours down the 1/4 strip to find out with these !
    Certainly there's a number of us with DSG Tigs that are keen to get better response/characteristics from our DSG box as well as better performance out of our engines. I am also not convinced that a straight ECU tune is the answer, as the DSG program is still going to alter the speed of response to accelerator inputs.

    I am interested to find out how your DSG "light-tune" works - not necesarily the details but if you're going to modify something in my car I'd like to know which component and how to get it back to "stock" if anything does go wrong. Also if I can understand conceptually how you do it, then it makes your claims a little more believable than just marketing hype. Not that I'm having a go, just for a lot of us it's a little subjective / unsubstantiated at this point in time.

    By the sound of things there's still a bit more work to do in R&D and I'm sure there's more than a handful of us that are hanging out for a good solution that fits performance/everyday driveability/family budget. I think you'll find the reason that most of us have Tigs instead of 3 door type R's is that kids and 3 door hatches really don't mix.

    I'd be interested in getting a comparison of 1/4 times for various tuning options/companies. Then you can put them side by side and do a proper comparison. Same track, same driver, same conditions. It's a big ask and don't think it would ever happen unless you were a motor mag editor.... perhaps.

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    Well, some things you (all) will have to do yourself. Just get together and test them at the race track. What could be more convincing than that?


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    [QUOTE=ViezuAustralia;747873]Guy,

    Perhaps we'll have to wait for whoever wants to update their threads to see what the latest DSG light-tune does for them by the looks. Many are in final testing but looking good. Certainly many of the LC we've tested so far are altering and other are being tested now. That's either a lot of bugs in LC's or some other 'magic'. In any event the main point of the light-dsg-tune is that shift patterns are faster, smoother, and quicker reacting - ignoring the LC for a moment. And it's a free inclusion of course with very attractive pricing to begin with, and fully insured of course.

    Sure Tiggy1 why not - if you're game! But those R's you've found will benefit shortly if not already.

    Since you bought it up, Viezu's International R&D and Technical Centre tune cars across the world from Africa to America to Russia, all over Europe, and now here of course. 34 countries now, all being serviced from the Euro R&D and Technical Centre at Viezu HQ dealing with all countries so their teams and decades of experience across the globe can assist me, a little I'm sure if ever I need it, but thanks very much for your kind offer.

    I might take you up on it with my Porsche DE1 - Viezu are coding specialists, we don't manufacture components, so if you can get the a TPC racing turbo kit I might be interested mate. Do you still stock the TPC racing turbo kits?

    Brick's 'R' prompted a whole new R&D program on the Aussie spec 'R' as we had issues earlier this year with our remote tuning device amongst other issues with the files. We then did further R&D on them. These were sorted along with the LC and clients here are reporting 4.7s 0-100 just off the mapping I believe, and that's before the DSG alterations. Oh and mid/low 13's on the 1/4 - again just the mapping on regular 98 fuel. And without the final DSG alterations either. Not sure how that compares to APR and others - some clients tell me it's almost half a second quicker but that sounds a lot - Guy can you assist?

    Tiggi1 we'll have to put yours down the 1/4 strip to find out with these !

    Stay tuned and I'm sure more customers who are forum members will get on here and put their findings up soon enough.

    Cheers

    Simon[COLOR="Silver"]
    Hi Simon, that would be grouse (if we had one-might mean a trip to Tsv). Certainly be interesting to get before and after dyno figures. Hard to substantiate improvements in general terms (every vehicle being different) but dynos would certainly show specific improvements. Remembering, of course, that outright power isn't the be all and end all (unless you're a knuckle-dragging beavan). For most of us, I'm sure its more about day-to-day driveability. Having said that, some bragging rights don't hurt
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    beavan? aka bogun, beaner, westie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pullstarter View Post
    beavan? aka bogun, beaner, westie?
    Haven't you heard of the "beavan brigade"? Must be a banana-bender thing
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    All sounds good !

    0-100 / quarter mile and dyno sounds like a plan !

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    Valet Mode

    Off to dealership for 30000k service on Tuesday, so time to switch back to stock mode & lock out EMCS...
    While i was at it, thought i would see what the 'valet' mode was like... 0-60kph in about 14 seconds, didn't seem to want to go much faster than 70! Seems to 'perform' as intended!
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