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    I guess suspension tuning is categorised as performance tuning...

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    Can someone explain how an anti-lift kit works?
    I guess most 'settings', whether factory or after-market on vehicles are a bit of a compromise. Was wondering what the down-side would be on the anti-lift? Would it cause premature tyre wear? Or other negative characteristics? The front-end lift & dive under acceleration & braking are an issue i would consider trying to rectify, without going for stiffer/shorter springs.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Previous: MY10 Tiguan 2.0TSI, Silver Leaf, APR StgII tune + many mod's

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGV View Post
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    Can someone explain how an anti-lift kit works?
    I guess most 'settings', whether factory or after-market on vehicles are a bit of a compromise. Was wondering what the down-side would be on the anti-lift? Would it cause premature tyre wear? Or other negative characteristics? The front-end lift & dive under acceleration & braking are an issue i would consider trying to rectify, without going for stiffer/shorter springs.

    Thanks in advance.
    Matt.
    Anti Lift Castor Kit

    Here's some side reading from MRT...hope it helps

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    nice... hopping APR will do christmas special. then i could get myself a christmas present.
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    Hi everyone!

    I am a soon-to-be V-Dubber with a Candy White TDI. This topic of APR vs other chips is really interesting to read, given that I have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever modifying cars.... N after reading this forum or the last few weeks has given me the Mod Bug!!!

    I was told that a cheaper alternative is to flash the in-car software w GAIC. what are your takes in this? Thanks and much appreciated for any feedback n advise.



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    Went and saw my local APR dealer today.... After some initial investigations it looks like my ECU is going to have to come out and possibly get sent off to have the Stage 1 upgrade. They said that security upgrades which came in midway through 2010 stops them accessing the ECU via the serial port and means the ECU has to come out to be upgraded.

    Also had a good chat about performance of the 7 speed DSG off the line and they said the APR stage 1 upgrade won't solve the problem of getting bogged down - it's more a combination of turbo lag and DSG mapping. Also from mid 2011 on the 7 speed DSG has a more agressive mapping in sport mode which makes it painful to drive around the city. Conclusion was that the solution lies more in getting the DSG remapped or possibly tricking it to be more agressive by installing a sprint booster.

    I was hoping to get a trial on the APR to see if this would help with the lag when pulling out into moving traffic... but it's turned out to be not as simple as I'd first hoped.

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    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
    2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    Went and saw my local APR dealer today.... After some initial investigations it looks like my ECU is going to have to come out and possibly get sent off to have the Stage 1 upgrade. They said that security upgrades which came in midway through 2010 stops them accessing the ECU via the serial port and means the ECU has to come out to be upgraded.
    Yes ... I believe all MY11 VAG and onwards come with this chastity belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussietig View Post
    Yes ... I believe all MY11 VAG and onwards come with this chastity belt.
    Yes. And this is a problem for the Superchips Bluefin unit too (they emailed me saying that they don't have a solution yet). Which confirms what others have reported in the past.
    Last edited by tigger73; 19-11-2011 at 09:06 AM.

    2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

    2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
    2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    Yes. And this is a problem for the Superchips Bluefin unit too (they emailed me saying that they don't have a solution yet). Which confirms what others have reported in the past.
    Hmmf. Would have been nice if they'd told me that up-front I had suspected that mine was unable to be direct-port tuned (even told them that) however they assured me that they thought the Superchips tune via BlueFin device should work. Got it yesterday and after multiple attempts with "error reading PCM" message, am still awaiting response from their UK H.O as to whether it's not doable. It appears their server is not letting me connect to even try and download what info the unit got from my Tig, which raises the frustration level even more! Looks like I will be taking them up on their "money-back" guarantee and trying to find someone I am confident enough in to let do bench tune (not keen on just anyone digging around to get at ECU, having gotten the info from APR as to what's involved in even getting at it!) Very reluctant to expose it to outside, as given humidity and inevitable corrosive hand juices that will end up on it, I suspect could cause dramas down the track. Anyone know of a workshop with enclosed, dust-proof, de-humidified workshop and technicians that use white cotton gloves? Bit overboard I know, but electronics are a nightmare when they start going wrong
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    I will chat to some of the guys at work about hacking a 64bit firewall (the advantages of working in IT) and will get back to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy1 View Post
    Hmmf. Would have been nice if they'd told me that up-front I had suspected that mine was unable to be direct-port tuned (even told them that) however they assured me that they thought the Superchips tune via BlueFin device should work. Got it yesterday and after multiple attempts with "error reading PCM" message, am still awaiting response from their UK H.O as to whether it's not doable. It appears their server is not letting me connect to even try and download what info the unit got from my Tig, which raises the frustration level even more! Looks like I will be taking them up on their "money-back" guarantee and trying to find someone I am confident enough in to let do bench tune (not keen on just anyone digging around to get at ECU, having gotten the info from APR as to what's involved in even getting at it!) Very reluctant to expose it to outside, as given humidity and inevitable corrosive hand juices that will end up on it, I suspect could cause dramas down the track. Anyone know of a workshop with enclosed, dust-proof, de-humidified workshop and technicians that use white cotton gloves? Bit overboard I know, but electronics are a nightmare when they start going wrong
    Tiggy1 as there are a number of us in the same boat with a 2011 Tig wanting to get remapped, can you let us know what is involved in doing a bench tune. I am gathering ECU has to come out but not sure what this involves. I had been told by my local APR dealer (after they couldn't connect) that they may need to send it off to APR in Qld. I'm not that keen to have my ECU out of my car let alone shipped interstate and back.

    2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

    2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
    2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
    - Tigger73's 125TSI Build



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