Tiguan Performance - quarter mile

[Guy_H]

Who can host a couple of dyno run jpg images for me? send me a PM with your email please!

[robby_jai]

Guy

if the power reading on my car at the tuner shoot out is of such interest and that my claims of my car/dyno issue is soo dubious and suggest possibly the product i am using is rubbish...... here is some food for thought for you.. As a very very astute forum member pointed out.. a good way to get an idea of a cars power is by its vmax at the 0-400m so some numbers to consider... according to motor mag at the shoot out

the TMR EVO X had a top speed of 177km/h at the 400 mark and it makes 226kw at the wheels
The MRT EVO X had a top speed of 170km/h at the 400 mark and it only made 196kw at the wheels
the MRT STI had a top speed of 182km/h at the 400 mark and it made 242kw at the wheels
the CP Sirocco had a top speed of 169km/h at the 400 mark and it made 194kw at the wheels
the GTI had a top speed of 179km/h at the 400 mark and it made 217kw
the golf r had a top speed of 176km/h at the 400 mark and it made 230kw at the wheels
the 135 had a top speed of 176km/h at the 400 mark and it made 225kw at the wheels

now my pissy little car topped out at 178km/h at the 400 mark and it ONLY made 187kw at the wheels...


looking at those ABOVE numbers and its consistency for the day...

two things jump out at me... two cars that make roughly the same power (195kw) gets a vmax of 170km/h there abouts... pretty consistent if you ask me...... shouldnt my car be maxing out at about the same speed cos i've only got 187kw?????

DO you honestly believe my car is only making 187kw at the wheels??????? or would it make you think that either the dyno reading wasnt done correctly on my car or it was misbehaving on the dyno

at the end of the day and i repeat.... i have no care for power ... my original comments were I find the times quoted very dubious and highly unbelievable and unless some one whips out a timeslip to prove other wise..... i'll stick by my original comments.

if proven wrong im happy to eat humble pie and apologise profusely for my rash and stupid statements.

i dont honestly think you believe my car ONLY makes 187kw Guy... you are very experienced yourself and you know the type of power that is required to get the numbers my car achieved on the day and 187kw aint it.

and for anybody else just pause for a moment and have a think about it.... at the end of the day awd/fwd/rwd has very little to do with power once the car is up and buggered off and power ultimately comes into play!

Hi Robby,

I'm not making any "performance or acceleration claims" with a Tiguan, but I can assure you - YES a 125kw Tiguan with APR stage 1 is making ~ 150 wheel KW's - and there have been at least 4 dynoed around the country on different types of dyno's.

And as mentioned by Big Yellow, the 125 & 147kw essentially share the same motor, so the 125kw boys get an extra 22kw bonus

I don't really care about your product or anyone else's product or claims, but certainly ours makes that, its repeatable anywhere.

[team_v]

Who can host a couple of dyno run jpg images for me? send me a PM with your email please!

PM Sent!

10char

[robby_jai]

actually i dont work for a tuning company mate. i care nothing for them to be honest.

HAHAHAHAHA.... Take that!

Who does Robby Jai work for so I make sure I never go there?

[Guy_H]

Robby, I think the only way to solve this is you take your car & dyno it straight against a Tiguan stage 1 - same dyno, same place, same time & day.

From your reckoning you should make 65 to 70kw more @ the wheels than a stage 1 Tig. (150kw vs 215 - 220kw).

I have seen your car run twice on a dyno - Mainline & Dyno Dynamics and both times it made what it made.

I don't really care either way, but don't dispute our claims that a Tiguan stage 1 does not make 189kw.

How about a one on one dyno comparison?

[Guy_H]

Other dyno's will be hosted shortly - thanks Clay!

[Big Yellow]

actually i dont work for a tuning company mate. i care nothing for them to be honest.

if you care nothing of it and don't care for power, why are you still crapping on???

and aren't you affliated with Peak Performance?

[team_v]

Other dyno's will be hosted shortly - thanks Clay!

No worries Guy.

Stage 1:



Stage 1 with 3 runs:




Stage 2:

[robby_jai]

Guy

You saw my dyno run on two days. The first time you saw it run, it didnt have the modifications it had on it now.

All it had was a stage 1 software with a CAI and nothing else.

Since then I have had other hardware changes to the car and have run a dyno against it.

I have been in discussing with todd to run another dyno on my car to try and suss out why we got such a low reading on my car last time, whether it was the dyno, the tune or other factors.

When I have done so I will provide those results for you. As for a dyno comparison of a tig vs my car more than happy to do so

and what will that prove apart from the power figures the car makes?

It wont substantiate the claims of the performance which is my original post

Robby, I think the only way to solve this is you take your car & dyno it straight against a Tiguan stage 1 - same dyno, same place, same time & day.

From your reckoning you should make 65 to 70kw more @ the wheels than a stage 1 Tig. (150kw vs 215 - 220kw).

I have seen your car run twice on a dyno - Mainline & Dyno Dynamics and both times it made what it made.

I don't really care either way, but don't dispute our claims that a Tiguan stage 1 does not make 189kw.

How about a one on one dyno comparison?

[robby_jai]

no im not tony. apart from the Revo software they sold to me..

all the other parts i sourced were from other suppliers, sourced over seas and Peak fitted them for me.

My Fuel Pump is an APR fuel pump fitted by a very help derek at european autotech. So that shoots the whole idea im affiliated with peak performance.

I'm not crapping on and on about the power. i'm challenging the whole concept that a bog standard tig 125tsi with just a software tune can pull a 5.9 second 0-100sprint and a 14.02 sprint.. given its weight and its lack of Launch controll software

And I am yet to see any one post some proof. Waving some dyno charts as some one mentioned earlier doesnt really prove anything other than yes it makes power.

So in relation to the car making 189kw as claimed by APR. Obviously I have been proven wrong and I'm happy to be proven wrong. So let's get that over and done with

Where's the proof to shut me up once and for all. I dont mind being proven wrong and I have been wrong before.

I challenge any one in sydney with a Tig 125tsi with a BOG standard Stage 1 tune and no other hardware to a visit to WSID. i'll pay for the drag.

Let's see if we can even get with in a whiskers of this 14.02.

Any takers?

if you care nothing of it and don't care for power, why are you still crapping on???

and aren't you affliated with Peak Performance?