Tiguan Performance - quarter mile

[team_v]

As far as i am aware the process is as follows.

Buy APR Stage 1 Ecu remap.
Then buy Downpipe and Intake and you get a free sorftware update to Stage 2.

From memory you cannot jump straight to stage 2 without paying for the software though.

[Mountainman]

Wheels Oct 2010 comparison quartermile times ...... test performed in the dry at 13 degrees and at Sydney Dragway .....

Evo X MR Manual $74885 ..... 14.02s
STI Manual $66990 .... 13.98s
R 3dr Manual $51790 .... 14.6s

Tiguan 125TSI Manual about $40000 .... 14.02s

And given the Tiguans power:weight disadvantage this is an excellent performance ..... for a performance hatch do you really need to look elsewhere ? .... Up to a 100km/h , which in reality is all you need in and around the city, the Tig would be quicker than any of these ......

What about Wheels Jan 2009 test of WRX sedan $39990 ....13.9s?

[team_v]

What about Wheels Jan 2009 test of WRX sedan $39990 ....13.9s?

The base TSI was available for 33,900 in the June sale, so if you add on an extra 1.5k for the Ecu remap it comes in at 5k cheaper.

Sharkie was just pointing out an average cost for what you would pay with no deals.

[Mountainman]

Exactly .... and as I said, a 14.5 equates to roughly around 6.0s 0-100

I have always observed that 14.5s is closer to 6.5s 0-100 awd cars. It's what Wheels has recorded in tests of 06 WRX's and even in fwd's such as the Mazda3 MPS they did 14.6/6.7. But in a stock 05 Forester XT auto they did 14.8/6.6

I have often wondered how the advantage of awd cars faster 0-100 times than fwd cars translates across to 0-400m times and speeds? Does a faster 0-100 time always mean a faster 0-400m time?

[Mountainman]

The base TSI was available for 33,900 in the June sale, so if you add on an extra 1.5k for the Ecu remap it comes in at 5k cheaper.

Sharkie was just pointing out an average cost for what you would pay with no deals.

But will a base TSI with stage 1 remap and still with its spare wheel and rear seat do 14.02s? And I wonder what the others would do on the same day under the same conditions in the hands of krracing?

I'm not questioning the value of the stage 1 remap on the 125TSI. It appears to be the best bang for your bucks improvement being offered on any car - Golf R power for cheap that's for sure.

[Sharkie]

I have always observed that 14.5s is closer to 6.5s 0-100 awd cars. It's what Wheels has recorded in tests of 06 WRX's and even in fwd's such as the Mazda3 MPS they did 14.6/6.7. But in a stock 05 Forester XT auto they did 14.8/6.6

I have often wondered how the advantage of awd cars faster 0-100 times than fwd cars translates across to 0-400m times and speeds? Does a faster 0-100 time always mean a faster 0-400m time?

In a 1300kg car a 14.5s 400m certainly would equate to around 6.5s ..... however in a 1600kg car that same 14.5s 400m would almost certainly equate to around 6.0s ....

In the Tiguan its weight counts against it, and over longer runs, such as 400m it would start losing ground to cars that are slower 0-100km/h

So in general, yes an AWD car will almost always be faster than a FWD provided the weights are similar .... as the weight goes up parity gets closer.

Prime example is the A3 2.0T in stock form ....

1300kg FWD 2.0T is 0-100 in 7.2s
1550kg AWD 2.0T is 0-100 in 7.1s

Not much in it time wise, but look at the extra 250kg the AWD is carrying.

In modded mode, both at 188kw, you'd find the FWD A3 at around 6.3s and the AWD at around 5.8s ......

Over 400m that extra weight will mean the gap gets closer .....

So for a WRX/STI to do a similar 400m time, given its 200odd kgs weight advantage, would mean its actually slower 0-100 ..... and how many times on public roads do you actually get to use 400ms of road flat out .... a 0-100 figure is much more meaningfull in the real world ..... and my Tig has certainly backed this up against many "more fancied" cars on the road ....

[Large Fruit]

From what you said i took it that i got the software free if i bought the other bits.

I'll hopefully have everything done next week and be at stage 2. Looking forward to it!

[team_v]

But will a base TSI with stage 1 remap and still with its spare wheel and rear seat do 14.02s? And I wonder what the others would do on the same day under the same conditions in the hands of krracing?

I'm not questioning the value of the stage 1 remap on the 125TSI. It appears to be the best bang for your bucks improvement being offered on any car - Golf R power for cheap that's for sure.

APR Stage 1 - 98RON
14.503 @ 92.78mph, 149.31kph
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f97/...ock-43033.html

Put some lightweight wheels and lowering springs in and take out the spare and run on a 1/4 tank of fuel and you could get yourself down close to the bottom 14's imho.

[team_v]

From what you said i took it that i got the software free if i bought the other bits.

I'll hopefully have everything done next week and be at stage 2. Looking forward to it!

If you have Stage 1 already loaded on the car and then get the intake and downpipe you get stage 2 software free.
Might want to check with the APR person or Guy on here to clarify but from memory you can't skip stage 1 and go straight to Stage 2 and get free software.

[Sharkie]

If you have Stage 1 already loaded on the car and then get the intake and downpipe you get stage 2 software free.
Might want to check with the APR person or Guy on here to clarify but from memory you can't skip stage 1 and go straight to Stage 2 and get free software.

Yes, Stg2 software is only free if ....

you already have Stg1 software

and

you purchase an APR downpipe (other brands will not get you any Stg2 Apr software)