Spacer goodness on RS4 Reps

[Pullstarter]

Exactly. Im coming from the WRX scene where pretty much everything has been tried

Your hub has a lip which the wheel is supposed to mate up too, it's designed and engineered to take substantial load - for a performance car like a WRX they're engineered with tolerances in mind

Put a spacer in and who knows what'll happen, it'll work fine day one, but then come around a corner the next day and the hubs crack or the spacer fails... then wheel wobble... into a shop-front window...injure a pedestrian or two... in court... insurance voided... see ya...

What a load of rubbish! Hubcentric spacers are fitted to the hub and the wheel, they have a mounting shoulder and are not known to fail. Otherwise reputable companies such as H&R, FK and Eibach would not make them. People race on circuits with these things!!!

As for insurance yes they do void it, but if you actually bothered to read my post you would know i'm only using them to judge what offset rims to get and as such they will only be VERY temporary.

Think i'll go back to the MK3 thread, it isn't so full of old women!!

[gareth_oau]

Howdy Doodie Guys,
Check out the tex thread below almost at the bottom of the page;

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeropost?...how&id=4607755

I have some 15mm spacers on the way I hope they look half as good as that one in the pics

ooooo touchy. why post on a forum if you dont want feedback?

umm, now i've read this original post, a few time now, and I cant see anwhere that even remotely suggests there is a temporariness about the spacers you have acquired.

my clairvoyance seems to be failing me yet again

I agree that products like H&R et al are good quality, but it doesnt mean our authorities will endorse them, and your insurance company may use any excuse not to pay out.

but hey, thats your choice and risk, regardless of how temporary it may prove to be

[Pullstarter]

ooooo touchy. why post on a forum if you dont want feedback?

umm, now i've read this original post, a few time now, and I cant see anwhere that even remotely suggests there is a temporariness about the spacers you have acquired.

my clairvoyance seems to be failing me yet again

I agree that products like H&R et al are good quality, but it doesnt mean our authorities will endorse them, and your insurance company may use any excuse not to pay out.

but hey, thats your choice and risk, regardless of how temporary it may prove to be

Have a look a couple of posts down and you'll clearly see where I say it's only temporary. Read before you comment I suggest. I wasn't asking for feedback on the legality of spacers, this has been done to death on this forum for anyone who cares to use the search function.

Anyway, for those interested stay tuned for pics, for those who simply want to deposit 2c thanks but no thanks.

[Arctra]

ooooo touchy. why post on a forum if you dont want feedback?

umm, now i've read this original post, a few time now, and I cant see anwhere that even remotely suggests there is a temporariness about the spacers you have acquired.

my clairvoyance seems to be failing me yet again

I agree that products like H&R et al are good quality, but it doesnt mean our authorities will endorse them, and your insurance company may use any excuse not to pay out.

but hey, thats your choice and risk, regardless of how temporary it may prove to be

I've said this before in relation to the DVD in Motion debate, and I think it warrants mention again.

From the original post you cannot deduce whether Pullstarter intends using spacers on his Tig just to see what the wheels look like (so you're right, you would need to be clairvoyant to pick that up) or whether he intended to use them on the road (although you were apparently clairvoyant to pick that up - just taking a humourous dig at you).

Pullstarter stated something, another poster questioned the legality, and the OP then responded in such a manner as to indicate he was aware there was a legal issue at play but did not see the relevance. Duty of care by those in the know is therefore complete... there was no need to continue to drive the point home any further IMO.

Granted, the added info on the pitfalls of spacers outside of just the legal are interesting, as I hadn't considered the load bearing of the lip, but once again it was put across in a dramatised "assume you're going to be in the worst possible circumstances when it happens" manner rather that just stating the facts or giving friendly advice.

All in all, the legal/insurance/etc points are valid, were noted, and let's just move on from there. I understand where Pullstarters frustration is coming from, but I also appreciate your concern as a citizen using the public roads you felt there was a risk of the spacers being used on. I think we all get the idea here so let's move along... nothing to see here

[Transporter]

Anyway, for those interested stay tuned for pics, for those who simply want to deposit 2c thanks but no thanks.

Here is my 2c.
As long as they're properly made and fitted the chance that your wheel would brake off is smaller than winning 1st price in cross lotto.

The spacers were used in old days a lot, and I don't recall any mishaps with them.


So, everyone please, just calm down and remain calm.

[gareth_oau]

I've said this before in relation to the DVD in Motion debate, and I think it warrants mention again.

From the original post you cannot deduce whether Pullstarter intends using spacers on his Tig just to see what the wheels look like (so you're right, you would need to be clairvoyant to pick that up) or whether he intended to use them on the road (although you were apparently clairvoyant to pick that up - just taking a humourous dig at you).

Pullstarter stated something, another poster questioned the legality, and the OP then responded in such a manner as to indicate he was aware there was a legal issue at play but did not see the relevance. Duty of care by those in the know is therefore complete... there was no need to continue to drive the point home any further IMO.

Granted, the added info on the pitfalls of spacers outside of just the legal are interesting, as I hadn't considered the load bearing of the lip, but once again it was put across in a dramatised "assume you're going to be in the worst possible circumstances when it happens" manner rather that just stating the facts or giving friendly advice.

All in all, the legal/insurance/etc points are valid, were noted, and let's just move on from there. I understand where Pullstarters frustration is coming from, but I also appreciate your concern as a citizen using the public roads you felt there was a risk of the spacers being used on. I think we all get the idea here so let's move along... nothing to see here

cheers, Arctra. I have no issues at all with pullstarter using the spacers. I'm all for modifying til your heart's content.

I wasnt driving a legal issue home, it had already been stated and once was enough. My comment was about insurance, and its potential negative effect on pullstarter.

I work in insurance and have already recognised that, since the GFC, insurance companies are really tightening up and using 'technicalities' to avoid paying out on claims.

i'm not a technical nor mechanical expert, and i rely on other members' advice from time to time. I was was merely hoping to give back some information that i have a bit of specialism in, that might be useful to others

[Psyk]

Fair enuff pullstarter, point taken.

Would've been nice if you elaborated a little in your posts as it does sound like you've done a bit of research around them.

How'd we know you wouldn't fit something like these?


...and end up like this:


As you mentioned, the 'better' ones are the those that have the spiggot or mounting shoulder as the studs hold the wheel onto the spiggot to take the load. Most people immediately think that the studs are supposed to take the load.

As you stated you're aware of the legal issues. Good to know and spacers on a Tiguan probably wouldn't attract too much attention and you stated they're temporary anyway...

Spacers on a high-performance sports car need more attention as people push the car. Yes some race cars may use them, but they're typically not a daily driver, have suspension setups that may or may not factor in spacers and are maintained differently to a once a year 15,000km serviced road car. In that sense a recommendation generally points to getting the correct wheel with the correct offset...

[Pullstarter]

I thought Arctra's post was an end to it? Obviously not for those who feel they need the last word, I won't be adding any more to this thread. I apologise unreservedly to anyone I have offended and if I was short of temper I also apologise. Please let this be and end to it.

[Transporter]

Stay on topic, please!

[gareth_oau]

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