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    Sometimes, its just the little things that count.

    The wife and I bought 2 new VW's from our local dealer. A Polo GTI for her that must be obeyed and a 132 Tiguan for me. Following some reading on this forum, we requested that the radio codes be provided for both vehicles on delivery. This wasnt done.

    The GTI was available first so picked it up, and the bride is thrilled. The fuel tank was only half full and we didnt notice this until after we left the dealership. Checked the air pressures in the tyres and they varied by up to 5 psi.

    Picked up the Tiguan, wise to the fuel this time. Fuel tank was only just over half full. Pointed this out to the dealer 'must have been an oversight' and raced off to fix the problem. No codes for this bloody radio either and tyre pressures all over the place.

    Dealer organised for us to attend the workshop last Saturday at 9am to get the radio codes. (you have to plug in the vehicles for a read from the main data base). Showed up at the appointed time, nobody knew anything about it. Sat around for an hour, said bugger this and left. Dealer rang up to apologise, 'the girl I booked it with wasnt there'. It wasnt in the bloody computer either I should have added.

    Went down to the local independent specialist today, just to have a chat and plan a few things for the future for both vehicles. Michael of Canberra VW Centre Tuggeranong, could not have been more charming, interested and obviously passionate about his business and the vehicles he works on. We chatted about all matter of things relating to cars and I enjoyed it no end. I wasnt booked in, he didnt make any money, but he DID gain a new customer for future servicing.

    Sometimes, it is jus the little things that count!!!

    Cheers

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    I found the independents to be a lot more welcoming and interested in the customer and their cars.

    Hope you enjoy the Tiguan (get it flashed!!!!!!!!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by team_v View Post
    I found the independents to be a lot more welcoming and interested in the customer and their cars.

    Hope you enjoy the Tiguan (get it flashed!!!!!!!!!!)
    V,

    That was the reason for going to the independent in the first place to talk over getting the Tiguan flashed. My current thinking is that I will run it in first for about 3 to 5,000ks and then have it done.

    We finished up discussing all manner of things about VW's, which just confirms your point, that '....independents are a lot more welcoming.

    Cheers

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    + 1 for Michael from CVWC Tuggerenong. He serviced our Polo GTI, Octavia RS and will be going there for anything to do with the Tiguan whilst ever I am posted (Navy) to the Canberra region.
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    Did Michael actually say that the new Tig's can be re-flashed and not bench tuned? Because word on the street is that it has too high of an encryption to bypass via OBD.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by masev View Post
    Did Michael actually say that the new Tig's can be re-flashed and not bench tuned? Because word on the street is that it has too high of an encryption to bypass via OBD.....
    Masev

    My choice of words there. Michael did not go into the specific means of uprating the Tiggy to 189. Sorry about any confusion. Whatever and however it is done, I will have it done in around 3 to 5000k's.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutare 23 View Post
    Masev

    My choice of words there. Michael did not go into the specific means of uprating the Tiggy to 189. Sorry about any confusion. Whatever and however it is done, I will have it done in around 3 to 5000k's.

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    No problem, I was hoping you would say re-flash but not so lucky - Damn VW and their anti-tune/complex encryptions!

    How long before you hit 3 - 5,000km? I would be very interested in what you think of the tune and how it has transformed the Tig.

    I find the thought of pulling out the ECU and having it soldered for a tune a little sickening but may be the only option...

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    Quote Originally Posted by masev View Post
    No problem, I was hoping you would say re-flash but not so lucky - Damn VW and their anti-tune/complex encryptions!

    How long before you hit 3 - 5,000km? I would be very interested in what you think of the tune and how it has transformed the Tig.

    I find the thought of pulling out the ECU and having it soldered for a tune a little sickening but may be the only option...

    Thanks
    Masev

    I've only just ticked over the 500ks, but I am tempted to get it done earlier than I have planned. Might head out to Belconnen to chat to the people out there about the process.

    Like you, I'm not too keen on having things soldered, removed from the car or the like, but that appears to be the price to have available oomph made available.

    From reading items on this forum, there is a suggestion that the APR flash etc., can be 'hidden' from the dealers. I find this to be rather hard to work out, as surely there would be a recording program within the ECU that would indicate to any boffin who has the right equipment if the vehicle is running over standard boost, or richer fuel mixtures, or really anything that isnt standard?? Maybe others who are more in the know than me will be able to clarify this for a guy who was more at home tuning and building Holden 202 motors.

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    Doing an antitune ECU does mean pulling it out, but there is no need to solder anything, my Viezu antitune kit has a billet pin stand that you lower suitable pins to the places indicated on the board, hook up the K-Tag box and hey presto, ECU will lift it's skirt. Solder works too, but so long as the person knows what they are doing, uses a decent soldering iron ( read temp controlled ) and has a steady hand, there's little problem.

    Apart from marks on the actual ECU case from prying it open - hard to do without the slightest mark - if a dealer really wants to check they certainly can. Thing is most dealers don't have time, nor do they care at dealership level, and it seems that so long as nothing major goes wrong, you are fine.

    Given a DSG Tig was the very first car I ever bench tuned and then had the pleasure of test driving afterwards - it's absolutely worth the effort - astounding difference.

    Oh and the last time I visited a dealer for a service was at 15k's, back in 2008. Independants all the way!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Roles View Post
    Doing an antitune ECU does mean pulling it out, but there is no need to solder anything, my Viezu antitune kit has a billet pin stand that you lower suitable pins to the places indicated on the board, hook up the K-Tag box and hey presto, ECU will lift it's skirt. Solder works too, but so long as the person knows what they are doing, uses a decent soldering iron ( read temp controlled ) and has a steady hand, there's little problem.

    Apart from marks on the actual ECU case from prying it open - hard to do without the slightest mark - if a dealer really wants to check they certainly can. Thing is most dealers don't have time, nor do they care at dealership level, and it seems that so long as nothing major goes wrong, you are fine.

    Given a DSG Tig was the very first car I ever bench tuned and then had the pleasure of test driving afterwards - it's absolutely worth the effort - astounding difference.

    Oh and the last time I visited a dealer for a service was at 15k's, back in 2008. Independants all the way!!
    Greg

    Thanks for the information. This forum is just a cracker for people more than willing to share their years of experience for dullards like me who are about as sharp as bowling balls.

    As stated earlier, any idea of soldering on my ECU causes a quick outbreak of a cold sweat. If the task can be completed by piggy backing or whatever means that doesnt need soldering, cutting etc, so much the better.

    Might just be time for me to HTFU and get on with it.

    Thanks again for your post

    Cheers

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