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    Price extortion

    I've been shopping around for a Tiguan lately too but have been a bit disgusted with the on road costs dealers are trying to extort out of buyers.

    I've been monitoring the prices on carsales.com.au and before yesterdays ACCC change to how cars must be advertised with on-road costs inclusive, a standard TDI was running at RRP$38290. Now I see the same cars are now commanding ORC RRP$46990 or more, that's nearly $9000 in on-road costs! Talk about price gouging, I assume they'll knock a couple thousand off when new car buyers negotiate a price but the dealers are not really giving up anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordow View Post
    I've been shopping around for a Tiguan lately too but have been a bit disgusted with the on road costs dealers are trying to extort out of buyers.

    I've been monitoring the prices on carsales.com.au and before yesterdays ACCC change to how cars must be advertised with on-road costs inclusive, a standard TDI was running at RRP$38290. Now I see the same cars are now commanding ORC RRP$46990 or more, that's nearly $9000 in on-road costs! Talk about price gouging, I assume they'll knock a couple thousand off when new car buyers negotiate a price but the dealers are not really giving up anything.
    Damm Governments interfering again to pacify the morons who can't work out the basics of car buying! A bit like Vicroads prevent a P plater driving a 1.4l Golf VI turbo but they can drive a R36 Golf. What were they drinking?

    There are threads on this costing but basically the VW discounts are $2K gen discount, $2K fleet discount (if eligible) and Del Delivery no more than $990. Options are full RRP and this is where the dealers (& VW) make their profit I guess. Push them hard on all three discount factors if you can.

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    Well I'm going to see the dealership on the weekend and see what sort of deal they are interested in doing. I've got a good idea of what price I want to pay but whether they want my business or not is another matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordow View Post
    Well I'm going to see the dealership on the weekend and see what sort of deal they are interested in doing. I've got a good idea of what price I want to pay but whether they want my business or not is another matter.
    I guess some dealers will never discount Tiguans due to the short supply issues but eventually a buyer buys! Lob in and say I will sign a contract for a preconfigured price and stick to it, leave them your phone number and wave your credit card around ready to pay a deposit maybe. They will try there tricks to get you to sign but be firm and ready to walk out and visit other dealers. I went through a fleet buyer and had NIL hassles of this but we went through carp buying my wife's golf. The dealer rang me up with a good price, when we went in he upped the price and said the price he quoted was not on, so he lured us back in. If they do call you with a price get it in a FAX before you walk back in to the dealer.

    Just offering my thoughts and experiences here. Good luck! Tiguans are great!

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    Thanks for the advice, I'm thinking I might give a car broker another go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordow View Post
    Thanks for the advice, I'm thinking I might give a car broker another go.

    Keep us posted how you get on mate! I will be on the hunt for a 147 Tig in the not too distant future. I need all the help I can get. I am not very good when it comes to hagling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket88 View Post
    Keep us posted how you get on mate! I will be on the hunt for a 147 Tig in the not too distant future. I need all the help I can get. I am not very good when it comes to hagling.
    I dropped into a dealer this afternoon to see what they could do for me, got quoted $48990 on road for auto TDI with leather and comfort. I said I wanted to spend $43,500 but they said that wasn't possible and wanted me to offer a more realistic price. I didn't give them another price and said no thanks and decided to walk out. Is just under $6000 for on road costs standard now for Volkswagen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordow View Post
    I dropped into a dealer this afternoon to see what they could do for me, got quoted $48990 on road for auto TDI with leather and comfort. I said I wanted to spend $43,500 but they said that wasn't possible and wanted me to offer a more realistic price. I didn't give them another price and said no thanks and decided to walk out. Is just under $6000 for on road costs standard now for Volkswagen?
    I paid around 51k for TDI auto with leather,pk asst,sunroof,comfort,fogs, 18inch NY wheels, Tow Bar and MDI on road but was a fleet price. Without fleet I would have expected to pay no more than 53K so what had worried me regards this ACCC pricing is true.
    The dealers will try and blame the ACCC to cover up fattening the dealers margins. Just make sure the dealer del fee is no more than 1000, the rest you can calculate on Gov figures.
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    there was a bit of a write up in the herald sun cars guide section on the new pricing structure for cars.
    all focussed around the dealer delivery bit and how they will all charge the highest amount no matter where you live as this is what they will have to advertise the car at...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordow View Post
    I dropped into a dealer this afternoon to see what they could do for me, got quoted $48990 on road for auto TDI with leather and comfort. I said I wanted to spend $43,500 but they said that wasn't possible and wanted me to offer a more realistic price. I didn't give them another price and said no thanks and decided to walk out. Is just under $6000 for on road costs standard now for Volkswagen?
    To be honest I think what you're asking is a little unrealistic, and their initial price is pretty inflated. But they've indicated they're willing to negotiate. The RRP before any onroads is $44190 assuming you want white. The statutory charges will be about $1700 depends on stamp duty in your state, dealer delivery as much as they can get away with!
    Most people have had trouble extracting much of a discount, another thread on here says you can probably get dealer delivery for $990 (not $3000+) and about a $2000 discount on the car. I think, it's on here somewhere!
    I went through a broker, and would recommend it. I got a manual TDI with metallic paint, alarm, sat nav with RVC, MDI and comfort for $43270 on road.

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