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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedhaggie View Post
    1. the front end - not used in OZ - not retro?
    According to ELSA the front ends are not interchangeable (if I remember correctly). I'm not sure if this means there is some effect/change to the radiator and other lower front engine bay components in order to lose the chin. I'm sure if you are enterprising enough you'll be able to change it though.

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    2. Drivetrain reprog It seems that it only using existing hardware ( may be the accelerator control is extra) but would have though the ESC system already had that- AM in the process of study the ERwin?ELSA tech training

    Why can't a "firmware" eCU reprogam be done to retro fit, the switch is already installed - needs labell ( and maybe connnecting-)

    GUY H is already offering a HAldex reprog which gives the 50/50 slpit
    On one of the forums (cant remember if it was Vortex, MyTiguan, or TiguanOwnersClub) I remember seeing that someone retrofitted the offroad button. It was a simple case of wiring in the button to dis/engage offroad, and then enabling the offroad funcationality via VAGCOM. Not sure if it's 100% like the factory fitted option, but it'd be damn close as I understand it a lot of the work is done electronically.

    Guys Haldex Performance Part would do part of the job by letting you lock the torque split, but it wouldn't change the accelerator characteristics or hill assist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedhaggie View Post
    3. TPMS Understand the TPMS system requires hardware , sensor in all wheels + receivers on each wheel arch - not Retro ?
    Nope. TPMS in the Aus Tig uses the ABS to detect changes in the rotation of the tyres relative to one another... there are no special sesnsors in the wheels. To be honest, the aftermarket in-wheel sensors are a lot more accurate and timely in their warnings and would be a better option. When I get my tyres changed I will be installing an in-wheel wireless TPMS solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedhaggie View Post
    5 A rear fullsize Spare carrier ( I am trying to develope a concept which uses th towbar as it's basis) Needs to weigh less than 100kgs. would also Help the dreaded Luggage capacity issue - REtro
    Go over to MyTiguan and see the solutions there already.
    http://mytiguan.com/viewtopic.php?f=...e+spare#p42756



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    OMG .... that spare tyre on the boot outside has got to be the worst thing anybody has ever done to a Tiguan .....

    Thats sacrilege ..... looks absolutely dreadful ..... I'd rather walk than be seen in a Tiguan like that ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctra View Post
    ...I remember seeing that someone retrofitted the offroad button. It was a simple case of wiring in the button to dis/engage offroad, and then enabling the offroad funcationality via VAGCOM...
    You wouldn't by any chance be able to dig out a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctra View Post
    According to ELSA the front ends are not interchangeable (if I remember correctly). I'm not sure if this means there is some effect/change to the radiator and other lower front engine bay components in order to lose the chin. I'm sure if you are enterprising enough you'll be able to change it though.
    Understood - NOT RETRO fiitable

    On one of the forums (cant remember if it was Vortex, MyTiguan, or TiguanOwnersClub) I remember seeing that someone retrofitted the offroad button. It was a simple case of wiring in the button to dis/engage offroad, and then enabling the offroad funcationality via VAGCOM. Not sure if it's 100% like the factory fitted option, but it'd be damn close as I understand it a lot of the work is done electronically.
    Would like to find that info - Dealer just say NOT retrofit

    Guys Haldex Performance Part would do part of the job by letting you lock the torque split, but it wouldn't change the accelerator characteristics or hill assist.
    YEP understood


    Nope. TPMS in the Aus Tig uses the ABS to detect changes in the rotation of the tyres relative to one another... there are no special sesnsors in the wheels. To be honest, the aftermarket in-wheel sensors are a lot more accurate and timely in their warnings and would be a better option. When I get my tyres changed I will be installing an in-wheel wireless TPMS solution.
    My understanding is that both the differential speed and pressure monitors were in use in current model. BUT I 've already fitted a Aftermarket TPMS -Am committing the sacriledge/surgery with my Dremel Modifing the "ashtray lid" to integrate it . Anyone know to remove ashtray Storage box would make it easier and would enabe neater wiring to rear of Lighter socket

    Go over to MyTiguan and see the solutions there already.
    HOPE TO achieve a neater solution - too low and looks difficult to open hatch - need a swing aside

    Sharkie , only for off road use or when luggage space at a high premium - use a roof box first
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    [QUOTE=Tedhaggie;454529]
    My understanding is that both the differential speed and pressure monitors were in use in current model. BUT I 've already fitted a Aftermarket TPMS
    US market legislates true TPMS only, Tiguans there are fitted with the sensors. The rest of us get the software that monitors rotation to determine a flat tyre.
    I would dearly like to active this tyre monitoring software, I have no need for the off-road part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    OMG .... that spare tyre on the boot outside has got to be the worst thing anybody has ever done to a Tiguan .....

    Thats sacrilege ..... looks absolutely dreadful ..... I'd rather walk than be seen in a Tiguan like that ...
    and what's worse is that it's a non-genuine modification!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    OMG .... that spare tyre on the boot outside has got to be the worst thing anybody has ever done to a Tiguan .....

    Thats sacrilege ..... looks absolutely dreadful ..... I'd rather walk than be seen in a Tiguan like that ...
    "Butt ugly" actually, but if they are in Australia, how do they get around the ADR's that surround vehicles with rear spare tyres?

    Or how is the departure angle affected by the tyre hanging out there?

    YUK!

    Good for rear-enders though......hahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedhaggie View Post
    ...-Am committing the sacriledge/surgery with my Dremel Modifing the "ashtray lid" to integrate it . Anyone know to remove ashtray Storage box would make it easier and would enabe neater wiring to rear of Lighter socket
    DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!

    PM me with your email address and I will send you extracts from the ELSA discs I have on how to remove the centre consol etc.

    Alternatively you could use a 12V fuse tap from the fuse box to get the power you need. See the guide I wrote up on MyTiguan forums:
    http://www.mytiguan.com/viewtopic.ph...lit=12v#p47411

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedhaggie View Post

    Understood - NOT RETRO fiitable
    Pics of the fronts:


    I can't see why they aren't interchangeable from these diagrams, but ELSA is pretty clear on it:
    "These front bumper covers are not interchangeable

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    So I wonder what else needs to change to fit the off road front end?

    I wonder why VWAus didn't bring that end in. Additional ADR testing costs? Or maybe the lower front end can incorporate a bigger radiator for hotter climates? But then why would the South African market get the off road nose?

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