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Thread: My Tiguan APR tuned Stage 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    Based on that the tune doesn't give the performance that was expected?

    I think the OP has hit it on the head,
    I think it's based on subjective feelings, at least he should take it to the race track and have done 1 lap before tune and secondone after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGV View Post
    Nindey, as mentioned by PM, you're welcome to try it in my manual. Not that it will be any use to you in your auto... But may be interesting none the less!
    Also, as mentioned, i was mildly disappointed to begin with too... Switched back to the stock map last weekend for a 15 min run & it def. wasn't as much fun to drive...
    So, in my opinion, certainly more spirited feeling, but no way a night/day difference.

    Now how about that meet-up so i can have a listen to your exhaust? !!
    Not sure if my wife would approve where you live?

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    Why does the "bogus" tuning figures bollocks come up every time there's a few APR haters around. I must have posted this dyno graph at least 6 times now and still the haters come on with no proof, well here is positive proof;



    Allowing for drive train loss APR's figures are absolutely spot on. I'm more than happy with mine and it's embarrassed quite a few so called "performance" cars.

    Can we please stop the "my tune can piss further than your tune" bull**** and stick to providing some useful information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nindey View Post
    the Tig is heavy and doesnt feel as powerful then the same tune in a GTI.
    I think this says it all.

    With respect to the OP, this is all based on the his perception of how the car should feel after being flashed. The above quote may indicate the expectation is unrealistic, no way is a Tig going to perform as well as a GTI given the diffeence in weight.

    In reality the logical course of action is to dyno the car in stock mode and again in flashed mode. If the figures show there is little difference, then he is entitled to post publicly his disappointment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VW Convert View Post
    ... the expectation is unrealistic, no way is a Tig going to perform as well as a GTI given the diffeence in weight.
    Are you talking about a stock GTI or chipped (remapped) GTI? If you're talking stock GTI, the APR remapped Tig will do a stock GTI all day everyday, from standing start to hill climbs, to 'other' tests that good sense I wouldn't discuss here. I know, because I got tired having GTIs trying all the time. There's someone on the GTI forum here that could atest to what I'm saying as on more than one occasion he tried it on against the Tig.
    But not just GTI's. I had runs with lots of others. Had a run with an XR6 where it was legal to do so. He followed me back when I pulled over and couldn't believe what I was in. He could not keep up, let alone get away. So my point being there is no way my APR mapped Tig did not perform significantly better (immensly TBH) with the remap.

    But if you're talking about a remapped GTI v remapped Tig, then of course not- although it might give it a run off the line.

    The only thing I can think is that the later Tigs aren't getting the same increase as the earlier ones for some reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clip View Post
    Are you talking about a stock GTI or chipped (remapped) GTI? If you're talking stock GTI, the APR remapped Tig will do a stock GTI all day everyday, from standing start to hill climbs, to 'other' tests that good sense I wouldn't discuss here. I know, because I got tired having GTIs trying all the time. There's someone on the GTI forum here that could atest to what I'm saying as on more than one occasion he tried it on against the Tig.
    But not just GTI's. I had runs with lots of others. Had a run with an XR6 where it was legal to do so. He followed me back when I pulled over and couldn't believe what I was in. He could not keep up, let alone get away. So my point being there is no way my APR mapped Tig did not perform significantly better (immensly TBH) with the remap.

    But if you're talking about a remapped GTI v remapped Tig, then of course not- although it might give it a run off the line.

    The only thing I can think is that the later Tigs aren't getting the same increase as the earlier ones for some reason?

    The OP stated
    Quote Originally Posted by Nindey View Post
    the Tig is heavy and doesnt feel as powerful then the same tune in a GTI.
    My interpretation is that he is referring to a chipped GTI Vs a chipped Tig. Given the output of a chipped Tig is virtually identical to a chipped GTI and a Tig is heavier, no way will a Tig be or feel as quick as a GTI. It would be a bit like me chipping my Eos and complaining it is not as quick as a GTI....of course not, it's 150 Kg heavier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nindey View Post
    ...theres not enough time in the sweet spot,
    wait a minute, just a thought, do you actually have a TDI, and not a TSI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clip View Post
    wait a minute, just a thought, do you actually have a TDI, and not a TSI?
    I hope not, APR don't tune diesels lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pullstarter View Post
    Why does the "bogus" tuning figures bollocks come up every time there's a few APR haters around. I must have posted this dyno graph at least 6 times now and still the haters come on with no proof, well here is positive proof;



    Allowing for drive train loss APR's figures are absolutely spot on. I'm more than happy with mine and it's embarrassed quite a few so called "performance" cars.

    Can we please stop the "my tune can piss further than your tune" bull**** and stick to providing some useful information?

    What was your baseline figure?


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    Quote Originally Posted by adzy View Post
    What was your baseline figure?
    Yep what Adzykenty said.

    Baseline figures would be nice to see.

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