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    Help diagnosing misfire / stumble - stock 125TSI

    I was wondering if anybody can assist advice on trouble shooting an issue I have with a 2008 manual 125TSI Tiguan with 85,000kms.

    The car developed a misfire or more specifically a stumble from 2000 RPM to 3000RPM only on light throttle. However the car idles perfectly and pulls like a train with no misfire at WOT. The issue only occurs at light throttle only. The car is 100% stock.

    The car showed the following codes:

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    Address 01: Engine (CAW) Labels: 06J-906-026-CAW.clb
    Part No SW: 06J 906 026 AA HW: 06J 906 026 D
    Component: MED17.5 3171
    Revision: A7H06--- Serial number: VWX7Z0HN3NQ7UQ
    Coding: 04230003180F0160
    Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
    VCID: 69F75865409FA95623D-803C

    3 Faults Found:
    000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
    P0300 - 000 - - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 11100000
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 13
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 83568 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.00.00
    Time: 11:23:04

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 2757 /min
    Load: 31.0 %
    Speed: 18.0 km/h
    Temperature: 29.0°C
    Temperature: 20.0°C
    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
    Voltage: 14.224 V

    000770 - Cylinder 2
    P0302 - 000 - Misfire Detected - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 11100000
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 13
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 83568 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.00.00
    Time: 11:23:04

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 2757 /min
    Load: 31.0 %
    Speed: 18.0 km/h
    Temperature: 29.0°C
    Temperature: 20.0°C
    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
    Voltage: 14.224 V

    000772 - Cylinder 4
    P0304 - 000 - Misfire Detected
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 83797 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.00.00
    Time: 17:39:38

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 1081 /min
    Load: 32.5 %
    Speed: 13.0 km/h
    Temperature: 50.0°C
    Temperature: 36.0°C
    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
    Voltage: 14.097 V

    Readiness: 0000 0000

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    I cleared the codes and changed all 4 spark plugs and coils and it improved the issue significantly - however it has not fixed it totally.

    The stumble is starting to come back after 100kms driving. The engine light has come on for a second time with errors P0301 & P0302 (misfire cylinder 1 & 2).

    Does anybody have advice on what to try next? or where to get quality trouble shooting information?

    Thanks in advance
    Nick

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    Could be an Intake valves carbon build up issue..
    Intake valve carbon cleaning for the 2.0TFSI and 4.2FSI.
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    Update on the issue. I cleaned the maf sensor with carby cleaner and it has significantly improved the stumble/misfire.

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    I posted a similar thread, 2500-3000 RPM stumble/hesitation on light throttle. I cleaned the MAF, seemed a little better, but I think I may change the plugs as well.

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    Also - just had my 60k service done, but spark plugs were not changed. I see mixed reports on whether these should be done at the 60k?

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    I would have thought that plugs would be good for 100k on a stock engine.
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