Filling the Tig with Diesel

[harrip]

You will have to suffer the small inconvenience that high-flow truck bowsers will be of no use to you.

Where I live it is of little inconvenience, but when travelling out of any main populated area the truck bowsers are common place and it then becomes an inconvenience that is not so small. Just driving 150KM from home took 3 garages to find one I could actually fill up at. Imagine if it were 500KM to the next station.

I agree a funnel is not ideal, but in some situations could become a necessity.

Either the garages or VW have lost the plot on this one.

[gerhard]

Where I live it is of little inconvenience, but when travelling out of any main populated area the truck bowsers are common place and it then becomes an inconvenience that is not so small. Just driving 150KM from home took 3 garages to find one I could actually fill up at. Imagine if it were 500KM to the next station.

I agree a funnel is not ideal, but in some situations could become a necessity.

Either the garages or VW have lost the plot on this one.

I fail to see how you can blame VW for "losing the plot". The same issue applies to diesel cars from EVERY manufacturer.

It's probably a good thing that you can get 800-1000k from each fill, so driving 150k from home would not require you to fuel up - you could probably do it three times

A more practical solution along the funnel lines could be to make a reducer "funnel" from tubing that fits snugly over the large pump but still fits into your tank opening. I'm visualising some cheap plastic clear hose from Bunnings that could be cut into 6" disposable lengths....buy hose that fits over large nozzle, squash other end and insert into tank. When finished, just leave the piece on there for the next motorist, or the next truckie can scratch his head and pull it off and throw it in the bin.

[Ivica]

Hi Guys,
I am hopefully getting my Diesel Tig next week. Because this is the first diesel vehicle I'll ever own, and because I am forgetful, and the wife will often drive it, I ordered the misfuelling device,basically so I dont fill it up with petrol by mistake one day and screw the engine up.

Im not sure what size the hole is where the nozzle fits, will double check.

[harrip]

Oh - whats the "misfuelling device"? Sounds interesting and probably a good idea.

[Ivica]

I saw it on "Dragons Den" show a couple of months ago, and thought it was a good idea. Its meant to ONLY fit diesel sized nozzles through the hole and wont allow petrol nozzles to fit in (even though they are narrower)

Apparently its very common that people put petrol in a diesel car, and if you do, then you are in deep trouble.

I called the inventor and placed the order.

Unfortunately they have to be ordered through the UK, that have it patented

I still have it in the box, and when I get my Tig, I will install it. Looks pretty simple...no special tools etc.

This is the website.

http://www.misfuellingprevention.co.uk/

[gerhard]

Here's another one http://www.stopdieselmisfuelling.co.uk/

I wonder if our fuel nozzles are identical in sizes to the UK ?

I still remember a PMG truck driver filling up with petrol into his diesel truck when I was a lad - we didn't have a diesel pump at our servo, so he just filled it anyway

Don't know how far he got, but he did get out of sight.....

[T&M]

We use BP Ultimate exculsively in our Tiguan and so far around SE QLD have found only 1 location that has "only" high-flow pumps, the other locations so far have the narrower version required for the Tig.

You'll probably find more and more bowsers now will soon be able to accommodate the influx of small diesel cars hitting the market with the narrow nozzles.

As far as a "misfueling device" is concerned - I'm a little confused...?? How is a narrow diesel nozzle any different to a narrow ULP nozzle...?

[Tigga1]

Because this is the first diesel vehicle I'll ever own, and because I am forgetful, and the wife will often drive it, I ordered the misfuelling device,basically so I dont fill it up with petrol by mistake one day and screw the engine up.

aha! My Golf Diesel was the first diesel I ever owned....and I loved it.
However, because I am forgetful, especially after a big night the day before, I filled it up with unleaded twice.
First time turned out ok, realised it after about 10 litres ands stopped. Then frantically looked around, rang dealership, tried VW assist (good luck there!) and finally talked to a backhoe driver who told me a bit of unleaded in diesel is ok, in some very cold countries they even use this as an "anti-freeze"... just keep driving and fill up with diesel again soon.
Second time unfortunately I filled up whole tank before realising...drove away ok, then about 2 k's down the road started to play up and eventually I stopped. Ended up being towed to dealership who emptied tank etc. etc. cost me couple of hundred but no great harm done. Diesel in petrol cars is far worse!
Or, apparently, unleaded in diesel BMW, as they use different fuel pumps that need replacement at great cost.

just my 2cents

happy diesel tigging!

[Arctra]

Diesel in petrol cars is far worse!
Or, apparently, unleaded in diesel BMW, as they use different fuel pumps that need replacement at great cost.

Wha? Diesel mixed in petrol isn't bad. It might stuff up ur cat converter, and will certainly make your car smoke more, but because diesel is effectively an oil, it's not really a big problem (as long as there isn't too much mixed in of course). Before anyone tries to jump down my throat about this being rubbish, I'd just like to point out I know this from personal experience on several occassions with 2 different petrol cars (one with the old traditional carb, and one fuel injected).

It's the petrol in diesel that's the big problem as I understand it due to the fact that petrol doesn't detonate under pressure like diesel. This is the first time I've heard of diesel being thinned with petrol, and certainly the first I've heard of anyone sucessfully running their diesel vehicle after puting a few litres of pertol in the tank. Did you notice the engine running any differently? How big a tank was it that the 10l was mixed in? I've certainly learned something new today, thanks!

[Tigga1]

It's the petrol in diesel that's the big problem as I understand it due to the fact that petrol doesn't detonate under pressure like diesel. This is the first time I've heard of diesel being thinned with petrol, and certainly the first I've heard of anyone sucessfully running their diesel vehicle after puting a few litres of pertol in the tank. Did you notice the engine running any differently? How big a tank was it that the 10l was mixed in? I've certainly learned something new today, thanks!

Not really running differently, perhaps a smidgin less power. And, as soon as the tank went down I filled her up again. Golf V has 55 ltr tank from memory.
When I completely filled the tank and got stuck, it cost me around $165 (from memory) for draining the tank and cleaning, which I thought was a reasonable price to pay for my mistake.