DSG tried to kill me...

[mtj007]

I have a few questions for you;

Is your Tiguan chipped/remapped?
Do you drive with a left foot on brakes?

Could it be that your water leak inside the Tiguan is related to the accident you mentioned in this post? http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...tml#post682466 maybe your crash repairer didn't do a good job? Or wasn't it your Tiguan involved in that accident?

The 9.9L/100km as your Fuelly says, indicate a spirited driving to me. What's your driving style?

BUT regardless, there could still be something wrong with the DSG or engine ECM, especially if you would be driving normally in mixed city/hwy conditions. Because some other Tig owners swear that they get a better economy even with the stage 2 remaps.

As for your note that there could be something wrong with other Tiguans with the DPF (because of the excessive smoke you saw from the exhaust), don’t worry about them, they could be just regenerating when you noticed the smoke.

Hi Transporter

Nope completely stock, not remapped. I never left foot brake and can't stand people who do haha so definitely not that, I know what you're thinking though with the way VWs cut accelerator input when you're on the brakes.

The accident mentioned in that post involved my (now written off) Commodore. The Tiguan replaced the Commodore.

9.9L/100km is fairly good I thought - my Tiguan is petrol and does a fair bit of driving in traffic.

Dad's Golf Mk VI TDI never belches out huge clouds of smoke even when it's doing a DPF regen so I thought it was odd.

Oh dear... that's concerning. Which dealer did your purchase and service at? I believe there is a 7500km service sticker for new VW Tiguans at some dealers.

My DSG jerks between D1 and D2 but doesn't behave the way you describe. Did you run in the gearbox and engine in the first 1500km?

I'm more worried about your water leas also. Who knows what damage, corrosion, electrical damage that may be causing in the long term?

Purchased at Wangara Volkswagen. It does have 7500km written on the sticker and Wangara do recommend it on the basis of what's written in the handbook about harsh driving conditions. Wangara is 45 minutes from home, Osborne Park is still a bit of a trek but much closer so I tried booking it in there and the service staff said no, wait until 15'000km/12 months... Odd I thought, usually they'll do whatever they can for money. I'm more concerned with the water and gearbox issues at the moment so the service can wait a few weeks and I'll try Melville VW.

Given I bought from Wangara I'm going to keep sending it back there for warranty work at the moment because based on bad experience with other dealers they're not as interested if you didn't buy from them.

In terms of running in, I drove it gently while it warmed up. Once the oil was up to temperature I drove it normally with the occasional run through the rev range. Took it for a drive through the hills a few times to get the engine loaded up.

They can give problems but to suggest they always give problems is false.

Yeah I agree. My mum used to have a Passat with DSG and apart from it clunking as it engaged Reverse every now and then it was fine. Shifts were always smooth as silk and it never hesitated. My dad has a Mk VI Golf with DSG and it has never had an issue, smooth as silk.


I took the Tiguan out for a drive late last night to see if I could replicate the issue but no luck... just the usual hesitation before downshifting in Drive mode. I did manage to capture a video of it doing a huge jolt on the 1st to 2nd upshift when I gave it WOT so at least I've got something to show the dealer. It also bunny hopped and made a clunk sound as I came to a stop at a set of lights. I just hope there's a fault code logged.

[Lucky13]

I see that every day.

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TBH mtj007, VW have made/sold over 1,000,000 (1 million) DSG's. They can't be all that bad (except the new dry clutch ones).

However, the best thing you can probably do, which is what you mentioned in your first post, and that's not buy another VW.

If you want reliability (not necessarly quality though) there is only one country that can consistently do this and that's the Japanese (no, not the Germans). So ditch the Tig and buy a RAV4 or CRV. You won't go wrong. Although on second thoughts, maybe don't buy the RAV4 as they have a few little gearbox problems too: "i will file a law suite against them...it doesnt have to last long. All i need it to do is last long enough for the media to hear about it, and down comes the most pathetic auto car maker in history", and then there's this one: "loss of power, gears sticking, loud bang and jerk when a gear decides to change,... unsafe to drive", and then this is even worse than your experience mtj : "it has been known by toyota that this model has problems with its ecu.....which makes the car shift at the wrong revs\times, at times at traffic lights or merging into highways the car completely looses power, sometimes at traffic lights it completely stalls leaving u completely vulnerable to other cars....it sometimes to revs to over 4000 revs and then suddenly engages into gear, which results in unintended accelaration. this might cause accidents especially in congested traffice". And another one: "Have just experienced transmission problems with my rav4 auto...they said it is a fault in the computer system that is sending incorrect signals to the transmission and damaging the transmission. Apparently it is beginning to happen quite a lot with some models of Toyota....I will still be paying around $3000 on a $7000 bill. Am talking to Consumer Affairs at the moment."

Good grief, so it's got to be the mighty Honda CRV then - or not: "Honda CR-V with automatic transmission has 8000 km on it, and is still under full warranty....experienced intermittent failure of transmission to shift into 2nd and 3rd gear. Even with full gas pedal, could only reach max speed of 50 km/hr. RPM would stay around 2000-2500 RPM" and: "Transmission idles very rough when in drive and stopped... vibration felt ...equal to the vibration one feels when riding a Harley... if I end up idling for longer then 40 seconds, I have to shift into neutral or the car stalls...when downshifting from 1st to 2nd, it hangs up and power is lost until it finds which gear it wants to be in. ".

So I give up - honestly, what do you buy? Problem is, new cars are so full of crap to make them "smarter" more "green" (what a crock!), that there is soo much to go wrong. I'm surprised they are as reliable as they are! Of course the BIG problem with new cars is they ARE more reliable than cars of 20 years ago, but when something does go wrong it costs $10000 instead of $1000! But this is just my $200 worth (used to be 2cents worth!)

[Lucky13]

So I give up - honestly, what do you buy? Problem is, new cars are so full of crap to make them "smarter" more "green" (what a crock!), that there is soo much to go wrong. I'm surprised they are as reliable as they are! Of course the BIG problem with new cars is they ARE more reliable than cars of 20 years ago, but when something does go wrong it costs $10000 instead of $1000! But this is just my $200 worth (used to be 2cents worth!)

exactly
I am fully agree with that

[mtj007]

So I give up - honestly, what do you buy? Problem is, new cars are so full of crap to make them "smarter" more "green" (what a crock!), that there is soo much to go wrong. I'm surprised they are as reliable as they are! Of course the BIG problem with new cars is they ARE more reliable than cars of 20 years ago, but when something does go wrong it costs $10000 instead of $1000! But this is just my $200 worth (used to be 2cents worth!)

I know exactly what you're saying... but wouldn't you be the least bit upset if your 2 month old car stopped in the middle of a roundabout?
I know VW have sold a lot of DSGs that haven't had problems... why do you think I tried my luck a 3rd time? Both my parents have had well behaved DSG cars. For me to get 3 out of 3 with problems, I'm not happy.

I'm not planning on filing a law suit or anything like that. And I've had the displeasure of driving a current model Rav4, Toyota certainly won't be selling one to me.

In my previous job I had the pleasure/displeasure of driving many different vehicles.
Holden Epicas with airbag faults and brake failure, Ford Falcons and Territorys that are delivered brand new with rust, Ford Focus' that have dodgy auto boxes, Corollas with oil leaks. Plenty of new cars have problems but I think I'm allowed to be a bit upset about getting 3 VWs which have all had gearbox problems + a mix of other different problems.

[VR28LT]

i don't get it..... your first 2 cars had DSG problems and now you have a bought a 3rd ???

you must be a sucker for punishment or have a real a love for dubs and DSG that you were hoping the first 2 were just one offs

good luck and wish you the best solving your DSG issues

[203132]

Hmmm anybody else also have cruise control randomly turned on? My cruise control switch was on and set at 70km/h. Was holding my partners hand and the cruise control clicked in. Had to brake to cancel it because there was a sudden surge of acceleration and I also did see the green cruise control light turn on. Done 55,000 had it for 2 years. First time it's ever done this

[Transporter]

Plenty of new cars have problems but I think I'm allowed to be a bit upset about getting 3 VWs which have all had gearbox problems + a mix of other different problems.

Of course you are. Thaths why the forums like this one exist.
The fault that you're experiencing is common and I believe it will be solved. Keep us posted how you go at the dealers.

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I know exactly what you're saying... but wouldn't you be the least bit upset if your 2 month old car stopped in the middle of a roundabout?

Of course I would be - but I don't know if I would have your tenacity in sticking with the same brand after all that bad "luck". However, I have an excellent relationship with my dealer and I am confident they would get it sorted for me. But I would also be speaking with VWA about my experiences, and I'd be doing just as you have and using this forum to tell everyone. Good luck, I do really hope you get it sorted.

[neil]

No issues here after 45000k's
Love DSG, no going back for me.