Cruise control

[jfranek]

I am not a VW fan. I buy cars because I need them. When I make reference to Mazda cars that I owned in the past, it is not advertising for Mazda. Mazdas aren't perfect cars. The fact that I bought the Tiguan means that I considered it better than the Mazda offerings.

The Tiguan is my first european car. It has lots of high-tech stuff - parking assistance that turns the steering wheel, electric parking brake etc.

Please understand my disappointment when I realised that with all this high tech, the cruise control is not capable of holding the speed even on a moderate downhill. With the omnipresence of speed cameras these days, this is particularly significant shortcoming, in my opinion.

Joe

P.S. If you think that this is a forum for fans only, please let me know, because I have another 'issue' with the Tiguan I would like to discuss.

[Swallowtail]

jfranek - there are very few cars out there with true 'speed control' cruise systems as opposed to run of the mill throttle control cruise systems. I would suggest that your disappointment may (given the price range and target market of the Tig) stem from an unrealistic expectation... and that's not me as a 'fan', that's just reality.

As to posting other issues - go for it.

[Sharkie]

The Tiguan is my first european car. It has lots of high-tech stuff - parking assistance that turns the steering wheel, electric parking brake etc.

Please understand my disappointment when I realised that with all this high tech, the cruise control is not capable of holding the speed even on a moderate downhill. With the omnipresence of speed cameras these days, this is particularly significant shortcoming, in my opinion.

The Tiguan does have a lot of techno stuff in it ... however ... it is only an entry level Euro car and as such does not get all the goodies reserved for the more expensive models I'm afraid.

To get adaptive cruise on any Euro car would have cost you at least $20K more than the Tig and that is simply a sad fact of life.

By all means post any issue you have as I myself are not afraid to do so ... even though some here thinks the sun shines out of VW's proverbial ..... and I can assure it does not ... my Tig is my 7th VW so I am a fan, but not blind to its (or the brands) faults ....

[NZTiguan]

I am not a VW fan. I buy cars because I need them. When I make reference to Mazda cars that I owned in the past, it is not advertising for Mazda. Mazdas aren't perfect cars. The fact that I bought the Tiguan means that I considered it better than the Mazda offerings.

The Tiguan is my first european car. It has lots of high-tech stuff - parking assistance that turns the steering wheel, electric parking brake etc.

Please understand my disappointment when I realised that with all this high tech, the cruise control is not capable of holding the speed even on a moderate downhill. With the omnipresence of speed cameras these days, this is particularly significant shortcoming, in my opinion.

Joe

P.S. If you think that this is a forum for fans only, please let me know, because I have another 'issue' with the Tiguan I would like to discuss.

There's nothing wrong with discussing problems with the Tiguan or any other vehicle, as you say none of them are perfect BUT your suggestion that Mazda 3 and 6 series had an "adaptive" (down hill speed control by changing down) cruise control is (to the best of my personal knowledge) WRONG. So, your linking this to the fact that the Tiguan doesn't have one is not correct. That's all I was commenting on.

Cheers

[jfranek]

There's nothing wrong with discussing problems with the Tiguan or any other vehicle, as you say none of them are perfect BUT your suggestion that Mazda 3 and 6 series had an "adaptive" (down hill speed control by changing down) cruise control is (to the best of my personal knowledge) WRONG. So, your linking this to the fact that the Tiguan doesn't have one is not correct. That's all I was commenting on.

Cheers

Derek, I don't think I said that my Mazdas had 'adaptive' speed control. I think I said they downshifted going down the hill with cruise control on.

In the case of Tiguan with 6 speed auto this would not help. I tried what you suggested several posts back. Shifting even two speeds down doesn't slow the car.

Slowing the car down by breaking would not make it 'adaptive' control from the control engineering point of view. It would still be only a very basic speed control - trying to keep to the set-point.

I would think that adding the breaking feature to the Tiguan would only require some extra software. I would think that all the mechanical actuators are already there for the other safety systems - stability, ABS etc. But I may be wrong.

Joe

[NZTiguan]

Derek, I don't think I said that my Mazdas had 'adaptive' speed control. I think I said they downshifted going down the hill with cruise control on.
Joe

Correct and that's what I'm saying is WRONG, I certainly haven't driven ANY car (and I have owned both 3 and 6 series Mazda autos) that WILL change down while the cruise is switched on. I truly believe you are mistaken and the the Tiguan system is exactly the same in that respect.

Cheers

In the case of Tiguan with 6 speed auto this would not help. I tried what you suggested several posts back. Shifting even two speeds down doesn't slow the car.
Joe

Well it certainly slows my diesel down, I've tried it and downshifting to fifth is usually sufficient to maintain 110 kph (cruise ON) unless the hill is VERY steep in which case it's on the brakes and worry about the cruise at the bottom of the hill.

Have you actually tried it ? I certainly concede it may not be as effective in a petrol Tig as they may not have quite as much engine braking but as I say, it certainly works with my diesel, that's why I suggested it.

Cheers

[donweather]

Well it certainly slows my diesel down, I've tried it and downshifting to fifth is usually sufficient to maintain 110 kph (cruise ON) unless the hill is VERY steep in which case it's on the brakes and worry about the cruise at the bottom of the hill.

Ummmmm.....as soon as you dowwshift with Cruise "On" doesn't the cruise automatically turn off?

[Sharkie]

Ummmmm.....as soon as you dowwshift with Cruise "On" doesn't the cruise automatically turn off?

In a manual ... yes ... never tested it in an auto

[Arctra]

Ummmmm.....as soon as you dowwshift with Cruise "On" doesn't the cruise automatically turn off?

Not in an auto. I have found that on downhills it's easier to slip into tiptronic and shift down a gear to maintain speeds within a km or 2 of what you set.

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I can't believe this thread has gone on for four pages.

Lets just hope that the next Tig has adaptive cruise control, combined with everything else that the Tig has - that none of the japs can match, otherwise we might lose some more mazda drivers.