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Thread: Is bench tuning a must now for 2012 2.0TSI Tiguan? - APR Stage 1 Tuning

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    Quote Originally Posted by team_v View Post
    Is that with 98Ron fuel?
    Mine took about 300km or so to adjust.
    Yes, and this is after 4000km so I'm pretty sure it's adjusted

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    Weird.
    I drove mine out to our local short circuit on the weekend.

    Best i saw on the way outwas 5.9L/100km on the MFD, but when i arrived it was 7.4.
    After a 30 minute session out there it was showing 15l/100km.

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    Some of the chips these days have a link removed on the board so that they can't be written (pull-up resistor on write enable pin). If that is the case, there is no option other than to remove the ECU board and solder the link back on before you can program it. I beleive this is the case with a lot of the newer Tiguans and the reason why you can never program via the OBD port without first pulling the ECU out and resoldering the link back on.

    Depending what your tuner does they may remove the link or leave it on. If the link is left on you may be able to program over the OBD port afterwards and hence not require to pull the ECU out a second time.

    Having said that flashing the ECU on the bench may actually be safer than flashing in the car as there are no other devices to talk to the ECU in the middle of programming. The last thing you want is a door being opened to cause an interrupt in the middle of writing to the ECU as this has the potential to corrupt what is being written.

    Obviously there are issues with handling the electronics as you don't want any static discharges stuffing things up either, but as long as the right precautions are taken you should be OK.

    One week sounds like a long time, but probably they're being on the safe side to make sure the file is back ready for download.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    Obviously there are issues with handling the electronics as you don't want any static discharges stuffing things up either, but as long as the right precautions are taken you should be OK.
    No nylon underwear or Van de Graaff generators

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    Quote Originally Posted by h100vw View Post
    No nylon underwear or Van de Graaff generators
    Yes and no polishing those chips with your microfibre cloth either.

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    I had mine APR flashed in June. It was a day long process with the ECU being removed from the vehicle. I currently average about 8.9 lphk since the flash. MOST of the time, I behave myself but every now and again it is into the 'S' slot and Ye Ha. Best money I have ever spent on a performance upgrade in over 35 years of owning cars. A number of drivers around my area have been VERY surprised when an old fat fella driving a 'Tiguan if you dont mind' gives them more than a good run for their money and indeed has smoked a few who thought they were bullet proof.

    I cannot speak highly enough about the APR flash and no, I dont have any allegiances to the company. I simply cant understand why anybody with one of these vehicles wouldnt get this done. It is just that good

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    Quote Originally Posted by team_v View Post
    Weird.
    I drove mine out to our local short circuit on the weekend.

    Best i saw on the way outwas 5.9L/100km on the MFD, but when i arrived it was 7.4.
    After a 30 minute session out there it was showing 15l/100km.
    I haven't seen it go below 8.6 (standard or otherwise) on the MDF... BTW, my numbers in previous posts were derived from the km travelled vs amount refuelled. I find that to be more accurate than the MDF.

    When ever I start the car, it starts at 36L/100 and drops to about 15L, then 10L on the highway.

    Love to hear what numbers others are getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaotickelly View Post
    I haven't seen it go below 8.6 (standard or otherwise) on the MDF... BTW, my numbers in previous posts were derived from the km travelled vs amount refuelled. I find that to be more accurate than the MDF.

    When ever I start the car, it starts at 36L/100 and drops to about 15L, then 10L on the highway.

    Love to hear what numbers others are getting.
    When i start mine it usually sits around 20l/100km and then drops down after a km or so to around 10.
    It seems like yours is fuel hungry, i believe sharkie complained that neever got below 10 in the standard car either.

    I used to use the km travelled vs amount refilled but the MFD was always within 0.2 of the actual result anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by team_v View Post
    When i start mine it usually sits around 20l/100km and then drops down after a km or so to around 10.
    It seems like yours is fuel hungry, i believe sharkie complained that neever got below 10 in the standard car either.

    I used to use the km travelled vs amount refilled but the MFD was always within 0.2 of the actual result anyway.
    Its all in the driving style .... .... I saw no difference between standard and modified Stg2 in day to day driving as far as fuel consumption went. If you foot is heavy, fuel consumption is high .... Cruising in the Stg 2 Tig did get me 6.7l/100km easy though.

    You should see what I can do to a diesel's fuel economy ..... Once had a loaner 2.0TDI Golf. Handed it back with 15l/100km average fuel consumption after a days driving ..... and it still was slow ....
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    Good day team_v,

    are these the figures you have with the mufflerectomy intact? would you recommend i do a mufflerectomy first before getting a stage 1 tune? thanks



    Quote Originally Posted by team_v View Post
    When i start mine it usually sits around 20l/100km and then drops down after a km or so to around 10.
    It seems like yours is fuel hungry, i believe sharkie complained that neever got below 10 in the standard car either.

    I used to use the km travelled vs amount refilled but the MFD was always within 0.2 of the actual result anyway.

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