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Thread: About to "sign on the line"

  1. #11
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    Hi mate,
    I wouldnt pull out from him. I would just try and maintain the raport by allowing him the chance to keep you happy...(see my above ideas)
    If you now try and find another dealer and stock, it will prolong things and add to your stress. Remember, things like servicing can really add up, so get a written agreement for a few free services....
    2018 Ralyee Green RS wagon. Fully optioned.
    Previous vehicles:2015 Volvo V60 Polestar (my one detour from VW/Skoda!)
    2013 Platin grey RS wagon / 2012 White Polo GTI / 2009 Black 125 Tiguan

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    You guys are awesome... thanks again.
    The service bit will be tough as it's in Canberra and I'm in Sydney.
    The other factor is the fact that the Black 147 is in WA and I am paying for that freight all the way to Sydney.

    I have 3 options now, after a VERY long day calling around.

    1. Black 147 Auto, fog lights, RVC, MDI and bluetooth (all factory fitted) as well as floor and boot mats and tint = 50k
    2. White 103 Auto, sun roof, leather seats, 18" tyres, Sat Nav, RVC, Park Assist, (all factory) Bluetooth, MDI (retro) 2011 car at port now to ensure it's an 11 11 = 54k
    3. White 103 Auto, comfort pack, RVC & Bluetooth (retro) as well as tinting and car/boot mats = 49k

    Which of the above represents the best value? #2 is available immediately and has no freight cost factored in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMS View Post
    You guys are awesome... thanks again.
    The service bit will be tough as it's in Canberra and I'm in Sydney.
    The other factor is the fact that the Black 147 is in WA and I am paying for that freight all the way to Sydney.

    I have 3 options now, after a VERY long day calling around.

    1. Black 147 Auto, fog lights, RVC, MDI and bluetooth (all factory fitted) as well as floor and boot mats and tint = 50k
    2. White 103 Auto, sun roof, leather seats, 18" tyres, Sat Nav, RVC, Park Assist, (all factory) Bluetooth, MDI (retro) 2011 car at port now to ensure it's an 11 11 = 54k
    3. White 103 Auto, comfort pack, RVC & Bluetooth (retro) as well as tinting and car/boot mats = 49k

    Which of the above represents the best value? #2 is available immediately and has no freight cost factored in...
    Since you're in Sydney, did you try Chatswood Classic Cars? The Tig that I ended up not buying (see my sig for specs) may still be available.

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    #2 looks like an ok deal. You could probably get that down a bit lower.

    We paid $54000 for the following (drive away).
    103 TDI Tiguan (MY11)
    DSG
    Metallic Paint
    Bi-Xenon headlights
    Sunroof
    Vienna Leather (this comes with electronic adjustable & heated seats)
    Off-road package
    Comfort Package
    MDI
    Bluetooth
    Sat Nav
    Rear View Camera
    Park Assist
    Carpet Floor mats

    But, this was in QLD, where I know on-road costs are less than NSW. Also - with this order, we have to wait (up to) 6 months. Which is fine for us, because we're in no hurry.
    My car: MY18 Arteon
    My car #2: MY22 Volvo XC40 Pure Electric
    Her car: MY22 Skoda Octavia Limited Edition Wagon

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    Hi DreamensioN... Your deal seems awesome!

    I have one last option, let's Call it #4:
    103 diesel auto, white, sat nav, Bluetooth, rear view, mdi, comfort pack, fog lights, carpet floor mats, boot tray, tinting, drive away... 47 (trying to squeeze 1k off it still)

  6. #16
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    Fair enough, mate... But that deposit, on New Year's Eve with an inability to make a comparison, was contingent on it being a GREAT, unbeatable deal. This seems not to be the case, and the pushing to make a deposit was very sudden. We agreed conditionally, and contacted the dealer the day after with our concerns about the pricing. He hadn't ordered the car, it's far away and this is ine readon its so expensive, knows we are not convinced it's a good price and I believe my partner has already contacted him to confirm its not the car for us. He is a great guy and I'll likely buy the next car from him in a couple of weeks' time, but expect the chance to shop around... The lesson here is not to shop on NYE when the dealer has targets to close and there's no way to shop around on the day. Appreciate your comments and perspective, and assure you we'll call him about the 2nd Tiguan for our family in a cpl of weeks.

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    At least you have learnt your lesson to do a lot of research before putting down 50k.
    I had various spreadsheets with pricing concerns written up before i even spoke to a dealership.

    At least now you have the forum to ask.

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    I think the lesson here is PMS made a purchase more based around emotions, and the dealer (whether knowingly or subconciously) took advantage.

    I mean...lets be real. If I was a car dealer, trying to close an end of month, and a guy walks in and says "I need a car...now." - I'm going to make the most of it.

    This is Exhibit A of why there are cooling off periods.

    But yes, PMS shouldn't have made a deposit and should have shopped around a bit more first. However, for PMS this is a major purchase that will cost a fair chunk of cash. For the dealer - at worst, it's just a lost sale which he can make up for next week. So the implications (financially) are greater for PMS than for the dealer.

    *edit* - just saw what team_V said.
    Last edited by DreamensioN; 04-01-2011 at 06:54 PM.
    My car: MY18 Arteon
    My car #2: MY22 Volvo XC40 Pure Electric
    Her car: MY22 Skoda Octavia Limited Edition Wagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermot View Post
    [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][I]... You should be trying now to build a long term relationship with your dealer so that when it comes to future purchases you know where you stand....
    Sorry, but I gave that up years ago, loyality never helped me in bikes or cars. e.g I've spent over $140,000 on bikes with the same dealer over the last 7 years. I can still walk in there and no one knows my name , let alone give me any benifits that you suggest might be worthwhile by buliding a 'relationship". Dito goes for car dealers I'm afraid. This is just my experience, and you may operate differently, I would be pleased if that were the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermot View Post
    You should be trying now to build a long term relationship with your dealer so that when it comes to future purchases you know where you stand....[/I][/FONT][/SIZE]
    dealer(sales)speak...

    while I wish this is the case and, equally, at the forefront of dealer's mind...the reality is that, over many purchases of all sorts of gear (i.e. automotive, electrical, photographic, etc...) it's just a sale...

    me, cynic...

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