189 kw from a wee chip

[Guy_H]

We already have exhaust specific software for the tiguan - and guess what!

Also have software for the upcoming stage 3 as well

To the best of my knowledge, no stand alone computers can currently handle the complexity of turbo & FSI technology

[Guy_H]

I wonder on a Tig whether $2000 worth of bolt on mods run on the stock ECU would get better results than stock everything + $2000 APR chip? Who wants to give it a go

I will have some of that action please

[Paragon]

I will have some of that action please

nah I like the idea of just changing the tune to increase power / response without having to drive a car around with a larger exhaust making a whole heap of noise.. must be old age setting in. But the question is just out of curiosity on a technical level.

[Sharkie]

We already have exhaust specific software for the tiguan - and guess what!

Also have software for the upcoming stage 3 as well

Mmm, more info on this please Guy ...... (I'll try and stop by tomorrow to have a chat anyway.)

[qsilverza]

I highly doubt it Boost is making the power and some timing+ a host of other stuff.

No doubt a bigger exhaust will work but you have to have the flow to make use of it.

Think of it as a chain of people, one person can carry 20 KG's while a strong athelete can carry 40 KG's, if they were in a chain, the load would be restricted to 20 KG's even though other people in the chain could handle 40 KG's.

Ciao

[Paragon]

I highly doubt it Boost is making the power and some timing+ a host of other stuff.

No doubt a bigger exhaust will work but you have to have the flow to make use of it.

Think of it as a chain of people, one person can carry 20 KG's while a strong athelete can carry 40 KG's, if they were in a chain, the load would be restricted to 20 KG's even though other people in the chain could handle 40 KG's.

Ciao

Thats what I meant, it would be pointless to put on an exhaust if the fuel maps were made for a car running a standard exhaust as it doesnt account for the extra possible flow.

But anyways, Guy has answered my question in that they do have a specific tune anyway for cars running exhaust mods compared to just stock cars.

[Paragon]

On another note, can the APR chip be done straight away or should you put some k's on the engine first? Any recommended driving styles for the initial run in period you can suggest Guy? Lots of opinions on this from babying the car for a few thousands k's to thrashing the hell out of it right away to bed in and create a better seal with the pistons?

[Sharkie]

On the GTI I had the APR chip done at about 150km. It was a real pain then to keep the revs down until I could get it to 1000km .....

After which I started using that power .... .... a lot .....

On the Tig (and the R20T) I plan on doing the 1st 1000km unchipped purely to restrict the temptation to use all that glorious extra power ...... You have to remember that its more than just the engine that needs to be run in .....

[Guy_H]

Hi Paragon,

no mileage really required - we do a lot of cars with very little mileage on them. As with all these modern engines (and synthetic oils) a "harder" run in is better for long term oil / fuel consumption.

Just follow manufacturers guidlines & you will be fine.

On the tuning / calibration side of things - these FSI cars are something else. EGT control is critical, and one car I witnessed calibration on (by the APR Calibrator) had over 70 dyno pulls & 45 road pulls to get the calibration to where it was acceptable - total was about 8 days spent on it - so getting a one off tune to that standard would be pretty tough!

[Paragon]

Did you guys ever come to any conclusions re the difference in hardware on the 125tsi and 147tsi Tiggys?