RNS510 Maps Version 3

**Mk6 Golf** · 05-03-2010, 04:06 PM

Hi all,

I've read many of the RNS510 discussions posted on this forum and have decided it may be beneficial for those who have an RNS510 (or are planning to get one) to start a new thread dedicated to the new (almost here) Map Version 3. I also hope this thread may assist people to resolve issues with Map Version 3 (if any).

The following information would be very helpful on this thread:

When will Map Version 3 be officially released by VW Australia?
What new features (if any) will Map Version 3 have (as compared to Map Version 2) or is it just simply new map data?
How much will Map Version 3 cost, if purchased outright with a new RNS510 system? (I'm assuming nothing as would come with system)
How much will Map Version 3 cost, if purchased as an upgrade for an existing RNS510 owner (I hear prices ranging from $300 to $1,200!?!)
How frequently can we update Map Version 3?
How will the update of Map Version 3 be handled, e.g. via downloading from Internet or via some small fee subscription service?
What are some of the key technical details for Map Version 3, if any.

I’m sure there are more questions regarding Map Version 3, so feel free to post them all here..

Thanks..

**Swallowtail** · 07-03-2010, 09:19 AM

It's the MAPS V3, not the RNS510 V3. Are you OK if I change the title of the thread?

**Mk6 Golf** · 07-03-2010, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Swallowtail

It's the MAPS V3, not the RNS510 V3. Are you OK if I change the title of the thread?

Sorry, I didn't realise the difference. Yes, Swallowtail can you please correct the thread title to "RNS510 Map Version 3" as the intent is to have somewhere where we can all post specific questions and answers, discussions etc, pertaining to the (long awaited and still overdue) new "Version 3" maps

Also, I'll edit my first post so it reflects we are talking maps only, not firmware.

Thanks.

**Mk6 Golf** · 08-03-2010, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mk6 Golf

How much will Map Version 3 cost, if purchased as an upgrade for an existing RNS510 owner (I hear prices ranging from $300 to $1,200!?!)

For me = FREE = $0.....

Confirmation from my dealer today that I will get V3 for free, complimentary, regardless of when Volkswagen Australia release V3.

Excellent!!

That's made me VERY happy..

But, I don't think they'll give me the disk

**Swallowtail** · 09-03-2010, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Mk6 Golf

For me = FREE = $0.....

Confirmation from my dealer today that I will get V3 for free, complimentary, regardless of when Volkswagen Australia release V3.

Excellent!!

That's made me VERY happy..

But, I don't think they'll give me the disk

No disc supplied = illegally installed copy.

**Mk6 Golf** · 09-03-2010, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Swallowtail

No disc supplied = illegally installed copy.

Illegal, surely not!?! ...I got an email from the dealer stating:

"At a future point in time, when Volkswagen release V3 software for the RNS510 we will
be offering that particular version of software to our Volkswagen clients, who return
for service, as complimentary update installation.(No CD)"

Surely a dealer wouldn't risk losing their job by doing something blatantly illegal, would they?

**Swallowtail** · 10-03-2010, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Mk6 Golf

Illegal, surely not!?! ...I got an email from the dealer stating:

"At a future point in time, when Volkswagen release V3 software for the RNS510 we will
be offering that particular version of software to our Volkswagen clients, who return
for service, as complimentary update installation.(No CD)"

Surely a dealer wouldn't risk losing their job by doing something blatantly illegal, would they?

LOL... the license Terms on the map are clear as crystal. Single user license per disc. Therefore for each install they must have a separate disc. Why would they not give you the disc if they have one for each install?

**Highlander** · 10-03-2010, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Swallowtail

LOL... the license Terms on the map are clear as crystal. Single user license per disc. Therefore for each install they must have a separate disc. Why would they not give you the disc if they have one for each install?

Are you sure that this is correct? The discs supplied to end users certainly carry the single user condition on the packaging.

It could be the case that dealers do have a master copy which has different conditions allowing them to place the data on more than one machine/RNS510. Still however not a reason not to supply the map DVD if requested. I can understand dealers not supplying map DVD if not requested and probably over 95% of owners will never take the map DVD out of its protective jacket.

You will have probably noticed that, when you buy a new computer with the operating system already installed, you may have received the operating system discs in an unopened and sealed package. Computer manufacturers sometimes do have their licensed OEM discs which allow them to use the same discs over and over on different machines - and then they supply a new copy of that software to the end user with the new computer (which is the licensed copy that needs to be used in future changes/reformats etc). The discs supplied to the end user carry the license conditions applying to those discs.

Just a thought before we categorically state that the map software has been illegally installed if the end user is not supplied with a copy of the map DVD. It could be legally installed and the dealer just too lazy to get the customer's copy DVD from VW (as Dermot has advised they have to be requested by mail from VWA), After all, it is for all intents and purposes a "backup DVD" for most of us.

I only asked for mine when I learned about updating firmware and read that there was a possibilty that the upgrade could lose map data and require re-installation.

The offer of dealers to upgrade V2 to V3 free of charge is certainly something to look forward to. Same offer was made to me when I questioned my dealer about supply of the V2 Navigation DVD back in November 2009.

This attitude is something of a reverse direction for me. Does show I suppose the value of informed "debate" on this forum which takes account of input from a number of forum members, including dealer representatives and allows me to change my opinion armed with more knowledge (and with more time to actually think about what I wrote previously).

**BlackSuperb** · 09-03-2010, 04:09 PM

Did anyone who got their Skoda through Steve Jarvin Skoda get their disks when they took delivery of their new car fitted with a Columbus Nav?

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**G-rig** · 12-03-2010, 02:35 PM

Pretty crappy no free upgrades from the dealer. No point trying to do the right thing if they charge you $800-1200 per year every time a new version is out.

I believe with alpine you get free upgrades.