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    Quote Originally Posted by 7andrei7 View Post
    Dear all, I'm new here but have more or less gone through a similar process. I've replaced my RNS315 with the RCD330 178B Desay.
    My problem is that the display light of the RCD does not auto-adjust based on the light conditions. The RNS had a light sensor or was using the light sensor located in the dials to auto-adjust.
    Do you know if there is a way to get the RCD to auto-adjust the display light based on sun/shade/dusk light? Thank you!
    Hmm... Mine doesn't either actually. However mine just changes colours depending if the lights are on or off

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    Hey Guys, got a RCD330+ from AliExpress, it's the Crngiar 187B model.

    It was easy to get the HU setup in my Golf GTI. Just had some questions for those who have successfully installed an after market reverse camera with this. What steps did you guys take? We had a go installing it over the weekend, but we couldn't get the camera to switch on when the car was put into reverse.

    Did you also have to purchase the rear view camera delay module to get it to work? Rear View Camera Delay Timer Module Filter For VW PQ35/46 MIB RCD330 RCD330G | eBay

    This is the camera I got: LEEWA Car Rear View Parking Camera For Skoda Superb(01~0/ VW Passat/Polo/Magotan Scirocco Seat Leon Altea/ EOS 4 #CA1724-in Vehicle Camera from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

    The HU also came with the relevant adapter to plug in the reverse camera: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting I plugged in the adapter into the quadlock adapter, replacing one of the existing ones that plugged into the bottom.

    The closest video I could find that explained the install is as follows: YouTube

    Cheers!

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    For reference I've chucked up a quick guide to the adaptors that usually come with an RCD330:

    RCD330 RVC Adaptor Cables

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    Hi All
    New here and not sure where to ask, but I’m looking for a radio with the works.

    I’m looking for a radio for a Multivan that has all the best features and can replace my RNS510.

    The main things I need are:
    1. Apple CarPlay
    2. Using the OEM camera and keeping the moving RVC Guidelines.
    3. Steering wheel control
    4. MFD integration
    5. Digital Radio

    Does such a radio exist?

    Anything else would be a bonus:
    Like ODB integration.

    My current RNS510 is diabolically slow, and often takes a minute or more for the RVC to appear on-screen when I get in the car after it’s been siting for more than 5 minutes.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psionic001 View Post
    Does such a radio exist?
    Closest you would get would be a Discover Media retrofit, but it is an expensive option. Other alternative would be a unit from Alpine which does a pretty good job of integrating with a VW.
    Daily: 2010 Tiguan TDI | Candy White | Manual | 4MOTION | New York Wheels | Comfort Pack | Tinted Windows | Discover Media | MkVI MFSW | Mk7 Climatronic | RVC | Fog Lights | ECB Nudge Bar | Hella 160 Driving Lights | Rola RBXL135 Cross Bars | To Do: Colour MFD
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    Installed an rcd330g+ recently in my Tiguan.

    Steering wheel controls work.
    Does not communicate with MFD.
    Reverse camera is enabled by default.

    I noticed that the unit produces a lot less bass than my previous RCD310 unit, even when I set the bass to maximum in the equaliser settings.

    My unit is a noname 187B with 5514 firmware.

    I noticed that someone mentioned needing to disable speaker checking with a vcds cable?
    I also noticed that my phone now streams to two bluetooth connections, should I manually unplug the bluetooth module for the car?

    The car does not have dynaudio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyBoy View Post
    Installed an rcd330g+ recently in my Tiguan.

    Steering wheel controls work.
    Does not communicate with MFD.
    Reverse camera is enabled by default.

    I noticed that the unit produces a lot less bass than my previous RCD310 unit, even when I set the bass to maximum in the equaliser settings.

    My unit is a noname 187B with 5514 firmware.

    I noticed that someone mentioned needing to disable speaker checking with a vcds cable?
    I also noticed that my phone now streams to two bluetooth connections, should I manually unplug the bluetooth module for the car?
    I've just swapped out the RCD510 on our MY11 Passat Highline a few days ago for an AiduAuto RCD330+ 187E (Android Auto and Apple CarPlay) head unit. You will need to do some coding and disabling of existing modules which I'll cover later. I did my coding with an OBDEleven but VCDS, if you have it, with its long coding helper might make the job a little easier. The car doesn't have a reverse camera so I was expecting to have to make some changes to head unit coding to turn this feature off.

    Assuming your Tig has a four speaker sound system check to see if you have the fader setting in the sound settings. If not you'll need to enable 4 speaker mode (see what I had to do below). Audio quality seemed to me to improve once the correct setting was enabled. I guess the speakers would now be driven at their proper optimal power level hence providing a better sound output.

    What I did:
    - Before removing the existing head unit performed an OBDEleven Scan to see what problems if any existed before I started. There were none.
    - Removed the dash trim and removed the 4xT20 screws securing the head unit.
    - Swapped out the existing head unit with the new RCD330+ and secured it into place with the original screws.
    - Physically disconnected the 9w2 bluetooth module which was installed under the drivers seat.
    - Performed a second scan to see what new errors presented. Some of these are caused by the speakers being disconnected during the swap-out process so I cleared all these faults and performed another scan. The second scan left me with 3 faults to deal with.
    - Two of these faults were rectified by removing/disabling the BlueTooth Telephone module and the Aux Audio Input module from the Gateway Module.
    - Ran another OBD Scan and found that only one fault remained. This fault was in the Radio Module. Not sure what I was looking for I examined the settings of the RCD330+ to see if there was anything obvious. I discovered the fader control was not present like it was in the old RCD510. There was however sound going to all four speakers. Perhaps an incorrect speaker configuration???
    - Reassembled the dash
    - Turned to google to find out more about what the current radio long code settings meant. Found that indeed the radio was set to 2 speaker mode.
    - Changed the Byte 2 value from 02 to 04 to change the speaker mode to 4 speaker.
    - The Radio Module was no longer showing a fault.
    - Checked the sound settings and found the fader setting was still missing.
    - Performed a reset of the head unit (push and hold LHS knob until the unit restarts).
    - Rechecked the sound settings and found the fader function is now present and the Bass response seems to be much better.
    - Changed the Byte 3 value from 40 to 00 to turn off the RVC.
    - Performed another full scan with the OBD. No Faults found.
    - Tested OPS (parking assist). OPS displays on head unit as expected although the car image shown is not a Passat Wagon. (I'll be changing this in long coding Byte 6 once I figure out the correct bits to set)
    - Tested ApplePlay
    - Paired an iPhone via Bluetooth.
    - Tested MFSW button functionality. All buttons working. PTT button is currently set to Mute audio.
    - Confirmed, as expected, the MFD no longer displays phone information.
    - Confirmed, as expected, the Climate Control functions are no longer displayed on the head unit touch screen

    My RCD330+ Long Coding Settings
    As Delivered: 0E000240000000
    Current :0E000400000000

    The below is what what I have learned about the other Byte values.

    Byte 1 sets the the type of output required for specific audio options.
    Byte 4 is the speaker monitoring settings.
    Byte 5 is the equalisation options.
    Byte 0 and its setting of 0E is still an unknown. I've seen a lot of examples on the web were this has been set as 00. I don't know what its doing but it doesn't seem to break anything so I'll leave it alone.

    For me the upgrade of the RCD510 to the RCD330+ in this car has been extremely worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GDG View Post
    I've just swapped out the RCD510 on our MY11 Passat Highline a few days ago for an AiduAuto RCD330+ 187E (Android Auto and Apple CarPlay) head unit. You will need to do some coding and disabling of existing modules which I'll cover later. I did my coding with an OBDEleven but VCDS, if you have it, with its long coding helper might make the job a little easier. The car doesn't have a reverse camera so I was expecting to have to make some changes to head unit coding to turn this feature off.

    Assuming your Tig has a four speaker sound system check to see if you have the fader setting in the sound settings. If not you'll need to enable 4 speaker mode (see what I had to do below). Audio quality seemed to me to improve once the correct setting was enabled. I guess the speakers would now be driven at their proper optimal power level hence providing a better sound output.

    What I did:
    - Before removing the existing head unit performed an OBDEleven Scan to see what problems if any existed before I started. There were none.
    - Removed the dash trim and removed the 4xT20 screws securing the head unit.
    - Swapped out the existing head unit with the new RCD330+ and secured it into place with the original screws.
    - Physically disconnected the 9w2 bluetooth module which was installed under the drivers seat.
    - Performed a second scan to see what new errors presented. Some of these are caused by the speakers being disconnected during the swap-out process so I cleared all these faults and performed another scan. The second scan left me with 3 faults to deal with.
    - Two of these faults were rectified by removing/disabling the BlueTooth Telephone module and the Aux Audio Input module from the Gateway Module.
    - Ran another OBD Scan and found that only one fault remained. This fault was in the Radio Module. Not sure what I was looking for I examined the settings of the RCD330+ to see if there was anything obvious. I discovered the fader control was not present like it was in the old RCD510. There was however sound going to all four speakers. Perhaps an incorrect speaker configuration???
    - Reassembled the dash
    - Turned to google to find out more about the current radio long code settings meant. Found that indeed the radio was set to 2 speaker mode.
    - Changed the Byte 2 value from 02 to 04 to change the speaker mode to 4 speaker.
    - The Radio Module was no longer showing a fault.
    - Checked the sound settings and found the fader setting was still missing.
    - Performed a reset of the head unit (push and hold LHS knob until the unit restarts).
    - Rechecked the sound settings and found the fader function is now present and the Bass response seems to be much better.
    - Changed the Byte 3 value from 40 to 00 to turn off the RVC.
    - Performed another full scan with the OBD. No Faults found.
    - Tested OPS (parking assist). OPS displays on head unit as expected although the car image shown is not a Passat Wagon. (I'll be changing this in long coding Byte 6 once I figure out the correct bits to set)
    - Tested ApplePlay
    - Paired an iPhone via Bluetooth.
    - Tested MFSW button functionality. All buttons working. PTT button is currently set to Mute audio.
    - Confirmed, as expected, the MFD no longer displays phone information.
    - Confirmed, as expected, the Climate Control functions are no longer displayed on the head unit touch screen

    My RCD330+ Long Coding Settings
    As Delivered: 0E000240000000
    Current :0E000400000000

    The below is what what I have learned about the other Byte values.

    Byte 1 sets the the type of output required for specific audio options.
    Byte 4 is the speaker monitoring settings.
    Byte 5 is the equalisation options.
    Byte 0 and its setting of 0E is still an unknown. I've seen a lot of examples on the web were this has been set as 00. I don't know what its doing but it doesn't seem to break anything so I'll leave it alone.

    For me the upgrade of the RCD510 to the RCD330+ in this car has been extremely worthwhile.
    Thanks for all that information man, it's quite helpful.

    The fader/equaliser settings are visible on my headunit, but I will end up disconnecting the oem BT module and getting my hands on a VCDS cable to do some fine tuning to see if I can replicate what you've done in your post.

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    As someone currently with an 187A Desay unit (Mirrorlink only, WinCE based) and has not been keeping up with these RCD330 developments, a brief reading seems to indicate that the 187E variants like so :

    RCD330 RCD330g Plus R340G 6.5"MIB Radio Carplay Android Auto For Tiguan Golf 5 6 Ameo MK5 MK6 Passat Vento 187E-in Car Radios from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

    Seem to be the most straightforward way to get android auto up and running.

    I was happy with the desay unit ive got currently for a while, as it was cheap as when i got it (something like 100 shipped) and id 'sideloaded' some custom apps like EasyConnect to get mirroring working, but that broke after i upgraded my phone to Oreo, and i really cant be bothered getting that back up and running anymore.

    Only issue i might see is that the 187E's all seem to have the Y510 software version which people have reported having issues with (volume inconsistencies, fader whackness) on 187B units. Is this indicative of 187B hardware issues or general Y510 software issues?

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    Reading through all this and I may get flamed but so much stuffing about with this unit e.g reverse camera, droid auto, volume control, software vcds coding etc

    Is this all because it looks oem in a MKV platform? Extra 100 bux on average you get a android Chinese unit with all the functionality?

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    Last edited by spec32; 18-07-2018 at 07:49 PM.

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