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  1. #161
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    Hello.

    I'm new. I have a 2010 Golf TSI Mk VI, bought it in 2011 brand new. And I had replaced it's RCD310 with a 2nd hand RNS510 which I bought from eBay Europe. I like the sound quality of this RNS510 and it has an awesome feature to adjust volume automatically according to the car's speed. However until now I still cannot find an Indonesian map for it, and beginning to get frustrated.

    Back then I used to copy mp3 files to RNS' harddrive or using SD card. However this practice is not practical anymore as I now rely on Spotify. I also want to have a working navigation, instead I'm forced to use my smartphone for navigation. That's why I need a bluetooth connection and also posibility to mirror my phone or use android-auto if I cannot find a working Indonesian map for this RNS510.

    Then I stumbled upon RCD330 and this forum. This RCD 300 seemed to be my revelation, very promising.

    I contacted a few Aliexpress' sellers and the conclusions are :

    1. There's no DVD/CD slot in RCD330G Plus

    2. RCD330 versions
    a. 6RD035187A (SW 0210, HW 025) - without native carplay/android auto capabilities, only mirrorlink, buttons on the righthand = Mute - Setup - Phone
    b. 6RD035187B (SW 5314, HW 534) - with native carplay/android auto capabilities, and mirrorlink, buttons on the righthand = Phone - App - Setup
    According to sellers, 187B is better than 187A.

    3. All sellers said that audio quality of RNS 510 is far better than RCD 330 even with 187B version.

    Users of RNS510 that now move to RCD330, please confirm whether this RCD 330 sound quality is less than RNS 510. I wouldn't settle for less audio quality equipment. Thanks in advance.

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    Ensure you get the 'B' headunit. I found one easily enough on AliExpress

    I can confirm the sound quality on the 330 is better than the 510. We just switched a 510 out for a 330 in our B7 Passat, and yes, it's better

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    Quote Originally Posted by benough View Post
    Ensure you get the 'B' headunit. I found one easily enough on AliExpress

    I can confirm the sound quality on the 330 is better than the 510. We just switched a 510 out for a 330 in our B7 Passat, and yes, it's better
    Thanks

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    Hi guys, sorry for hijacking. Im fitting a 330 for a customer to an Amarok but can't get an aftermarket reverse camera to work.
    Radio coded for rev camera, cvbs to rca adaptor in quad lock connector, and delay box fitted.
    I have a feeling its a can issue because channel 51 doesn't show reverse being selected or lower volume.
    Also unsure of radio version?
    Unit says AIDU AUTO 6RD 035 187A sw0210
    Hw 025
    Thanks
    Last edited by Mattautolec; 19-10-2017 at 11:26 PM. Reason: Sorry

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    Here's the link to Aidu, maybe they will be able to help:

    Check out this recommended store on AliExpress. Find great products at low prices!
    Aidu Auto Technology CO., LTD - Small Orders Online Store, Hot Selling and more on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
    (from AliExpress Android)

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    Quote Originally Posted by benough View Post
    I've just put the RCD330 + into a 2011 B7 Passat Highline Variant and it works fine.

    OPS shows up, but it doesn't dim the audio.

    Carsystems.pl now sell OEM composite cameras and looms, so that's what I will be getting.

    Highline B7's come with BT Premium and MDI, which I will just be removing from the Gateway.

    The Media and Nav screens don't appear in the MFD, but not a deal breaker. Wife's car anyway and she prefers the Spotify interface and Siri for hand free iMessage.

    I will post up how the RVC looks, and I have read reports the composite OEM camera with this RCD330 plus is better than the MK7 Golf R RVC, but that's conjecture at this point in time.

    On the weekend I installed the low line, boot handle, Composite RVC with a Composite loom for a Golf 7.

    I will say, the composite video is not as good as the RGB video.

    Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+-sjji9an-jpg

    That said, the install is pretty straight forward, after you know what you're doing

    The Golf 7 loom from carsystems is for a badge RVC. It needs a trigger wire as well as 12V. The RCD330+ only needs the video feed wires, CVBS+ and CVBS-, and 12V, all at the headunit.

    We connected the trigger wire to the to the reverse light, but it turns out it was the 12V wire, so running the camera off the reverse light made the screen get horrible interference.

    Reverse wire removed and a quick re-solder later and we're in business.

    Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+-1g2wpue-jpg

    The RCD330+ doesn't overlay and Park Pilot info over the RVC screen, you have to choose one or the other. That said, the beeps still work.

    Unfortunately, the guide lines aren't on it. This seems to be due to the headunit, as the camera I bought from carsystems.pl has the line in the exmaple photo, VW Rear HighLine Camera 5N0827566 + Guidance Line - Sharan 7N0 Golf Variant Passat Variant Tiguan Touran.

    Furthermore, like an RNS510, Discover Media headunit, when you roll away after deselecting Reverse gear, it doesn't hold the RVC image for 5 seconds, it switches off immediately.

    Finally, the exposure is decent. Again, not as nice as the badge camera in my Golf 5, but I will use it in a few more scenarios in the coming days.

    For those who are interested, here is the loom link VW Passat B6 / B7 - Composite Camera wiring harness NOT FOR OEM HEADUNITs
    Last edited by benough; 23-10-2017 at 02:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benough View Post
    On the weekend I installed the low line, boot handle, Composite RVC with a Composite loom for a Golf 7.

    I will say, the composite video is not as good as the RGB video.

    Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+-sjji9an-jpg

    That said, the install is pretty straight forward, after you know what you're doing

    The Golf 7 loom from carsystems is for a badge RVC. It needs a trigger wire as well as 12V. The RCD330+ only needs the video feed wires, CVBS+ and CVBS-, and 12V, all at the headunit.

    We connected the trigger wire to the to the reverse light, but it turns out it was the 12V wire, so running the camera off the reverse light made the screen get horrible interference.

    Reverse wire removed and a quick re-solder later and we're in business.

    Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+-1g2wpue-jpg

    The RCD330+ doesn't overlay and Park Pilot info over the RVC screen, you have to choose one or the other. That said, the beeps still work.

    Unfortunately, the guide lines aren't on it. This seems to be due to the headunit, as the camera I bought from carsystems.pl has the line in the exmaple photo, VW Rear HighLine Camera 5N0827566 + Guidance Line - Sharan 7N0 Golf Variant Passat Variant Tiguan Touran.

    Furthermore, like an RNS510, Discover Media headunit, when you roll away after deselecting Reverse gear, it doesn't hold the RVC image for 5 seconds, it switches off immediately.

    Finally, the exposure is decent. Again, not as nice as the badge camera in my Golf 5, but I will use it in a few more scenarios in the coming days.

    For those who are interested, here is the loom link VW Passat B6 / B7 - Composite Camera wiring harness NOT FOR OEM HEADUNITs
    You need a digital delay relay.
    That will keep powering the camera for 30 seconds after you deselect reverse.

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    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattautolec View Post
    Hi guys, sorry for hijacking. Im fitting a 330 for a customer to an Amarok but can't get an aftermarket reverse camera to work.
    Radio coded for rev camera, cvbs to rca adaptor in quad lock connector, and delay box fitted.
    I have a feeling its a can issue because channel 51 doesn't show reverse being selected or lower volume.
    Also unsure of radio version?
    Unit says AIDU AUTO 6RD 035 187A sw0210
    Hw 025
    Thanks
    I have no idea if your issue is the same as I had a couple of years ago, but here goes.

    I swapped out a RNS 315 that didn’t have a camera attached for a RNS 510 with a camera and I had a similar issue in that it didn’t seem to recognise when in reverse, even though the on-screen parking sensors were working.

    It turns out that it wasn’t just a case of ticking boxes in long coding and adaptions but I had to manually change the long coding digits that were supplied to me through a link.

    Or, could it be as simple as have you rebooted the head unit after making changes through OBD11?

    Unfortunately I know just enough to get myself into trouble, repeatedly. Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+




    Cheers dave

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    So I bought the Android Auto version from AliExpress (Crngiar RCD330 Plus R340G 6.5" MIB Car Radio Carplay App Android Auto For VW Tiguan Golf 5 6 Jetta MK5 MK6 Passat Polo Touran-in Car Radios from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group) into my Mk6 Golf R and have the following to report/require help on from people much smarter than myself:

    Install:
    Plug and play was no issue at all, although it looks like my camera was an aftermarket (read hack job) install, so I need to figure out how to wire the adaptor for the Reverse camera.
    Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+-headunit-jpg
    In summary it kind of works straight away with Dynaudio (see bugs)
    The buttons on the steering wheel all work ok (see bugs)
    OEM reverse camera - TBC (still need to wire in connector)
    Sound quality - seems fine with Dynaudio (same as RNS510 to me, but I am no Audiophile)

    Bugs:
    - OPS system kind of works - every time the car is switched on, the OPS beeps randomly and just this morning parking at work, the front sensors were saying there was something there when I was reversing, even with no obstruction. I will clean the sensors and try again.
    - Volume - I can only get the volume to work once I plug in and play something through either the BT audio or android auto. If I do not do this, there appears to be a master mute button that means there is no volume/noise. I cannot get around this without playing some form of audio through the phone
    - Fader - every time I switch the car on (and get the audio working), the Fader is automatically front passenger speaker only, I have to adjust each time I start the car
    - Android Auto - This is the main reason I bought this particular head unit and didn't look at upgrading the BT module. It took me a long time to get to work, wouldn't work with an aftermarket cable. Then I updated Android Auto on my S7 and connected an OEM cable and it worked, but seemed very buggy still. After a few connects/disconnect it seems to be ok for now
    - CarPlay - cannot get this to work with my iPhone 6 even with OEM cable (will try updating software and see if this helps)
    - MirrorLink - seems to connect, but says that I have no MirrorLink capable apps... Not sure of the truth of this as I don't know much about MirrorLink
    - AM Radio - does not work - it cannot find any stations

    Now some questions, done anyone know a workaround for the Fader reverting back to passenger left speaker on start-up & how I can get the sound to work without playing through BT or Android Auto first? As these are the only 2 issues I need to fix to enjoy the head unit.

    If I cannot get the above sorted, I will maybe look at going back to the RNS510 unit and upgrade the BT module, but I'd really like to get this sorted as Android Auto (if working properly) is awesome.
    Last edited by golf2001; 26-10-2017 at 08:39 AM.

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    The fader could be because it is either not correctly coded for the amp, or does not support it.
    In the coding byte for amplifier in the RCD330, try changing to 03, reboot and test. if that doesn't work try 05 and reboot.
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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