Need advice/help on bora sound

[Fury]

You don't have to drill out the rivets unless ur taking the inner door skin off... which I highly doubt you are.
Heck i sound deadened the outer door without drilling out the rivets (helps i got a mate with skinny arms).

[qsilverza]

Hey Fury,

You have to drill out the speaker rivets, are you referring to the Lock rivets up near the top ?

[Fury]

Oh... I don't remember that... my Bora came with only one speaker, and it was so long ago... I think it may have even just pulled off, it was only plastic.

[HOLEIN1]

You don't have to drill out the rivets unless ur taking the inner door skin off... which I highly doubt you are.
Heck i sound deadened the outer door without drilling out the rivets (helps i got a mate with skinny arms).

looks like there may have been a difference between the models than as the two golfs that i have worked on had rivets holding the standard spacer to the inner door skin

i only took the door apart as i deadened the entire outer skin... if you dont do this theres obviously no need to go to this extent...

my memory is failing me at the moment so cant remmeber how the speaker is attached to the standard spacer, so you may be able to resuse it... MDF would theoretically give a better sound as its a more solid mounting point than the thin plasic... although this would probably be negligable...

i still say replace the crapola standard HU first and take it from there...

cheers, dan

[Silver dub]

yeah my genuine speakers and spacers in my bora were all molded into one piece. So to replace the speakers i had to make new spacers for the new speakers to fit

[Fury]

I recall there were 4 bolt holes there, I just bolted an MDF spacer onto the door frame.... Here's a pic i dug up, maybe shows it better then my memory.

Note: the pic is done before deadening.

[BI65ND]

Sorry to revive an old thread but the anti-speaker upgrading in this thread shocks me! Yes the speakers that come in the Bora may be good in terms of factory speakers as they are made in Germany, but if you want good sound quality then replacing them is the only way to go. Yes a new head unit will clean up the sound quality a lot, but there is only so much they can do with standard speakers. If you are not going to turn the volume up much then standard speakers are fine, but once you turn it up a bit they are awfully exposed. The bora speakers may not distort easily like ones you'll get in Holdens and Fords, but they have a lot of clashing between the mids, bass and trebles. They also have a distinct lack in grunt, dont have that same kick you get in good aftermarket speakers.
Depending on budget and the type of music you listen to theres many options. Focal and MB Quart make brilliant speakers, but will generally cost you a fair bit, they are both very colourful sounding speakers and sound awesome for nice clean tracks. If you listen to Rock music, Rockfords are awesome as well - especially the Power series. Very hard and powerful speakers, but they are not as crisp as others. Alpine Type X pros are a good all-round speaker if you have $1000 to spend on a set of splits. Eclipse also make very clear speakers but lack in bass output. I would never touch any speakers from Kenwood, Fusion, Clarion and the like. Pioneer as a budget brand are actually pretty decent value for money.
The system I will be building for my Bora will consist of an Alpine CDA-9887 source unit, MB Quart splits allround, T1500 Rockford sub amp, either my Alpine PDX speaker amp or a new one, and undecided on the two subs I'll be using at the moment.

[glidn]

hi guys i have just about finished my install in my Bora. It is all working except for one little hickup with one crossover were the brass coil sprung so i'm waiting to pick up the replacment one this weekend.

Anyway I have installed new MB quart splits in the front, MB Quart 2 way Coaxials in the rear, 2 alpine amps ( one for the splits and coaxial's) and one for the two 10" alpine subs.

I blew all my standard splits when i was running them with just a 12" sub, so i had to update.

My managed to fit my crossovers just behind the door handles and they fitted perfectly and i also didn't have to worry about running heaps of wires back through the door etc.

I will be posting up a forum with all the step by step photos soon.

But i'll post up some pics of where i put my crossovers for you now so you can get an idea.

How on earth did you blow your factory speakers? Only thing i can thing is abuse and Clipping.

I have had a set of standard speakers in the girlfriends GTI use to be FED by 150wrms per speaker. Did that for around 11 months, then install a small foot print amp in. Which is making 100wrms per speaker. Another 9 months have passed. Have not had one single issue with the standard speakers.

Not to be negative or anything, but maybe you should get some one else to do your install, clearly who ever did it before should not be allowed too.
Or is the problem laying between Radio and Chair?

[Mr ©harisma]

Agreed with above. Only time I have blown a speaker is from clipping.

Problem is the volume knob... funny how a quick flick can make some smoke.

[BI65ND]

I've blown a few speakers in my time lol. Most notable a 15" subwoofer in a soundoff. Was completely my fault though - knew it was going to happen. Sold my subs two days before the comp so put a $20 sub in my car for a bit of fun - running well over 1000W RMS into it, it lasted a whole 15 seconds hehe. It did pull 129.8 db before it blew though!