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    MDI will work for audio output + charging, but not for seamless control via RCD/RNS touchscreen interface anymore. You will need to select the song/album/playlist you want from the device itself.

    "Apple has confirmed to Macworld that these adapters support analog and USB audio-out, as well as syncing and charging. However, the adapters don’t support video-out or iPod mode, the latter a special mode that lets particular accessories, such as car stereos and some whole-home-audio systems, display your iPod’s menus on the accessory’s own screen. More cryptically, the online Apple Store’s product pages note that “some 30-pin accessories are not supported.” - What Apple's new Lightning connector means for you | Macworld

    Here's a video of what iPod-Out looks like: QNX iPod Out Video - this is the exact same as what VW have leveraged through the MDI adapter via the RCD/RNS units.

    The solution? There is no solution. Apple have moved forward in the view that BT is the future connectivity method for vehicle audio (hence their inclusion of it on the iPod Nano), so are not concerned with vehicle integration in that way anymore.

    Let the crying begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mythik View Post
    MDI will work for audio output + charging, but not for seamless control via RCD/RNS touchscreen interface anymore. You will need to select the song/album/playlist you want from the device itself.
    I didn't even know you could control iPod through the RNS unless it was on the HDD. Is there something I need to do to get this to work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Gimignano R View Post
    I didn't even know you could control iPod through the RNS unless it was on the HDD. Is there something I need to do to get this to work?
    Plug it in using the MDI iPod/iPhone cable then select MDI along the top sources tabs when using the media interface on the RNS. You can browse the structure like you would on the device by clicking on Selection.

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    The price of those docking adapters alone is the biggest joke I've seen. Probably costs them 50c each and I saw a screenshot showing one for sale for 30 GBP. I honestly won't be surprised the take-up rate is a lot lower this time 'round.

    At least there's always bluetooth streaming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_R View Post
    The price of those docking adapters alone is the biggest joke I've seen. Probably costs them 50c each and I saw a screenshot showing one for sale for 30 GBP. I honestly won't be surprised the take-up rate is a lot lower this time 'round.

    At least there's always bluetooth streaming
    Actually it's similar to a Thunderbolt cable and there's some logic circuitry and not just a simple cable.

    And shipping for those adaptors has dropped to 2 weeks due to demand. So I think your guess is wrong

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    very informative mythik, but does this mean that ipod out feature is not supported by iphone 5 or by the cable itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by night_flight View Post
    very informative mythik, but does this mean that ipod out feature is not supported by iphone 5 or by the cable itself?
    This article is a lot more detailed on what it can or cannot do

    Lightning 30-pin adapter works with analog audio, "iPod Out" doesn't mean what you think it means | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog

    I'd be happy if I could select the tracks on the iPhone and just have the audio out to the RCD/RNS

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoggieHowser View Post
    This article is a lot more detailed on what it can or cannot do

    Lightning 30-pin adapter works with analog audio, "iPod Out" doesn't mean what you think it means | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog

    I'd be happy if I could select the tracks on the iPhone and just have the audio out to the RCD/RNS
    I still use steering controls a lot such as next track pause ... I think splash screen that apple has "accessory connected" is becoming more and more obsolete and should be phased out. It takes longer to find the song you look for on the head unit ( s c r o l l ) than on the iphone itself........And with more and more streaming music apps such as spotify and rdio not having locked screen, really time to get rid of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoggieHowser View Post
    This article is a lot more detailed on what it can or cannot do

    Lightning 30-pin adapter works with analog audio, "iPod Out" doesn't mean what you think it means | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog

    I'd be happy if I could select the tracks on the iPhone and just have the audio out to the RCD/RNS
    The safest assumption would be that you would get the Play/Pause/Next/Prev controls and Track info with the adapter. The selection screen where you can select playlists and whatnot is in the maybe court for now I think.

    The same controls are available over A2DP in the newer BT units, but the DACs in the BT units don't seem to be as good as the iPhone's.
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