Installation of a Mk7 Multi-Function steering wheel + paddles into a Mk6

[tigger73]

Well I'm sorry to say that my Mk7 GTI wheel is going to a new home. Be keen to hear how you guys get on. I was pretty convinced that it wasn't going to work without doing some "magic".

I still think it's possible, though I now believe you may have to solder resistors on/off like here in Vortex: VWVortex.com - The Shopping Cart's --Build Thread--

[marcrae19]

hey james - any joy ?

[dsgwhizza]

if anyone has one in Brisbane , I could help using my spare bench setup for mk6 golf that I could use to adapt the steering wheel to cluster.

I suspect it's to do with vcds coding and changing the gateway or instrument to the the one after p35

[jamesatfish]

hey james - any joy ?

My apologies - I got as far as setting up some diagnostics on the Mk7 wheel but I'm now in the US until mid October so won't get a chance to look further into this until I return.

[marcrae19]

Bump. Any further progress james?

[eldobi]

If you had a LINbus and CANbus listening device you could sus it out exactly what messages are being sent out or retransmitted. You could maybe even program an ATmel controller to get it all to work (this is how I have a MFSW in my mk4 golf! custom ATmel chip translating the LINbus wheel button signals to PIONEER signals ) but that would take serious effort.)

Hi mate, Am really interested on having the MK6 mfsw to be fitted in mt MK4 and have the button working with my pioneer ... Have u posted about how to do it or can u provide me with steps
Thanks

[marcrae19]

Found some additional info for anyone following this thread.

Here are some German guys trying to work it through and then the adapter that has been created by OEMplus but it doesn't have DSG paddle control hooked up

Golf 7 Lenkrad, ich hab's ... | TX-Board - das T5 / T6 Forum

CAN BUS VW T5 GP Facelift Lenkrad Adapter Golf 7 Lenkrad - Online Shop OEM-plus-tuning

[SimsonStar1974]

OK I've done a bit of tracing for the Mk6 and Mk7 wiring harness.

Here's the connections on the Mk6 wiring harness:

Attachment 18506

And for the Mk7 harness the major difference is the connection of the horn and the use of an additional pin on the Yellow connector:

Attachment 18507

Also the other thing which I really have no idea about is the operation of the control module that the black connector attaches to (which talks to the buttons/paddles). This sits in the bottom of the mk6 wheel but is "hidden" behind the cruise control buttons in the mk7.

Clearly in Mk6 the horn is routed through this module, however on Mk7 it's connected direct to the yellow connector.

The weird thing is that the horn still works without having to rewire anything so I'm still scratching my head.

Unfortunately I don't have any tools to determine what the function of each pin is and to listen in on any comms.

Hey Guys... I got one attempt for you.
I recognized in a PinOut from new Scirocco SW that there are 2 wires for Cruise Control System (german: GRA) although the new Scirocco has its cruise control not directly on the MFSW...
Could some of you guys with the 1k8 Scirocco MFSW and VCDS give it a try to code the cruise control on the SWCM? I think that could be a back door to obtain the button illumination via the wires for Cruise Control....

[tigger73]

Hey Guys... I got one attempt for you.
I recognized in a PinOut from new Scirocco SW that there are 2 wires for Cruise Control System (german: GRA) although the new Scirocco has its cruise control not directly on the MFSW...
Could some of you guys with the 1k8 Scirocco MFSW and VCDS give it a try to code the cruise control on the SWCM? I think that could be a back door to obtain the button illumination via the wires for Cruise Control....

Not sure I 100% follow. The Scirocco is still based on the Mk6 Golf platform and not Mk7 MQB as I understand it.

[SimsonStar1974]

Could somebody who owns a 1k8 SW and an old SWCM (1k0 .... CD or CH) try to code type "3" at the 3rd digit (with multifunction with cruise & voice control) and/or code "4" at the 5th digit (with board computer and woth cruise control system (CCS))?
I think the 2 unidentified wires from your sketch (pin 5 at black plug & pin 8 at the yellow plug) are for both cruise control and illumination.



It might be that VW uses this as backdoor to illuminate the steering wheel on old PQ35 based cars (like new scirocco or even Golf MK V & VI)...


It simply does not make sense otherwise to have those wires within the steering wheel as Scirocco uses the conventional steering wheel columns for CCS

See here: