RNS510, Amp & standard speakers.

[Logzy]

I am no expert here so after alot of reading in the VW Audio lounge i just wanted to confirm what i think i have decided based on what ive read.

I have the RNS-510 in a MK5 GT Sport, no factory amp.

After reading about the MK4 speakers i am presuming the MK5 speakers are pretty good quality and if i add an amp to the system it will give me a big improvement.

My thoughts are to add a 4ch amp that has a pass through (i think thats what its called) so that later i can go out from this amp into another one to run a subwoofer.
I am looking at this amp from Jaycar.


Does this sound like an ok setup.?

I have read alot about only running the front speakers through an amp and leaving the rears on the HU but in doing this it would mean that i would need a LOC for the fronts as the RNS-510 would still need to be set to speaker outputs. (Using VAG-COM the RNS-510 can be set to line out outputs)
This would also mean that later when i want to install an amp it would be a little more difficult as i should feed the SW amp from the rear outputs.
Am i correct.

What do you experts think of my very basic idea of the 4ch amp on all 4 speakers.

Thanks guys for your help.

[Mr ©harisma]

Hey dude,

What is going to be your end goal? Do you have a rough budget on how much you want to spend all up?

Personally:
*Jaycar = bang for $$, no great SQ.
*Standard speakers are good, but not that good
*That RNS-510 will have a piss poor output EQ, look at getting a RF 3sixty.1 / 3sixty.2 / JL cleansweep to at least fix the problems over a simple LOC. They will also take your 4ch speaker input and turn them into 6ch pre outs.

[Logzy]

Hey dude,

What is going to be your end goal? Do you have a rough budget on how much you want to spend all up?

Personally:
*Jaycar = bang for $$, no great SQ.
*Standard speakers are good, but not that good
*That RNS-510 will have a piss poor output EQ, look at getting a RF 3sixty.1 / 3sixty.2 / JL cleansweep to at least fix the problems over a simple LOC. They will also take your 4ch speaker input and turn them into 6ch pre outs.

Basically I'm looking for a bit more sound quality and a bit more volume without distortion.
If i can avoid changing the speakers then i'd like to just cause i CBF'd doing it and i was thinking of installing the amp myself.
If i start looking at speakers etc then i'd probably get a professional install.
Most of the music i play will be MP3's from the RNS510
All up i'd possibly limit my budget to $1000 however this could be flexible.
The RNS510 has to stay.

Whats your reccomendations.?
The JL Cleansweep sounds like a good product. Do i really need it.?

Thanks for your help.

[Mr ©harisma]

Is that $1k including a processor, 4ch amp, sub amp and sub or just the 4ch amp and processor ( and wiring of course ).

[MKIVF]

Alpine also make the imprint processor.

[Logzy]

Is that $1k including a processor, 4ch amp, sub amp and sub or just the 4ch amp and processor ( and wiring of course ).

I'd like to think its for all of it but if i need to allow $1200 or so to cover all of it then i will.
What could i get away with bearing in mind that I'm sticking with std speakers.?

I'm trying to limit myself as i've already spent a ****load on this car that i dont even have yet.

[Greg Roles]

Hey mate, you've got half your car in parts already!

I've had some good audio setups for normal people like us using Jaycar stuff in my past.

In my opinion, leave the rears stock, from the headunit. You only hear "fill" from the rear pretty much anyhow.

Spend the time and money on the fronts. Again, I can't advise highly enough replacing JUST the fronts with a decent set of splits, and putting a little dynamat bitumen sheet under each one. Use the stock wires, and just buy a jaycar 2 channel amp to suit the fronts. You don't need huge power to get half decent sound. The audiophiles will disagree, but spend the cash and research on speakers. THEY make the sound.

I have a decent Stinger LOC II and gold / shielded RCA input and output wiring to suit, all in great nick, which you can have. It was from the audio setup I had planned for the Ford, and of no use to me anymore. Will let you swap 2 channel line in to 4 channels out. Yeah yeah you audio types, it won't be SQ quality.... but a wack better than stock!

So you need an amp, some splits and I am happy to give you two woofer suitable squares of dynamat, as I have p-l-e-n-t-y. This will give you a heap of bang for buck, and in my opinion a fine sound. If you do buy that 4 channel amp, you can easily add a sub later on for more punch, and Jaycar have a fabulous 10" for the money ($150). I recently put one of these in a Lancer I fixed up for a quick sale, and it sounded awesome for the cash. Basically sold the car actually!

Easy come in a lot less than a grand.

[Mr ©harisma]

I'd like to think its for all of it but if i need to allow $1200 or so to cover all of it then i will.
What could i get away with bearing in mind that I'm sticking with std speakers.?

I'm trying to limit myself as i've already spent a ****load on this car that i dont even have yet.

lol time to spend some more. Well in that case,

Speaker amp: Jaycar 4x 50WRMS ( you wont need more for the stockies ) $200
Sub amp: Jaycar 2x 150WRMS, 1x 500WRMS $250
Wiring: $75-100 ( I managed to get a wiring kit for 2 amps for $50 shop around )
Sub: $300ish + $50 for a box ( look into the Hertz ES, Oz Vector, DD5xx, Boston G1, Treo SSi etc depends on any limitations or space etc )

So that is about $900. Unfortunately that does leave much for a processor ( which are about $450+ ) however you could get that at a later stage and just use basic LOC for the time being.

The above 4x 50WRMS amp has RCA through ( those pass through things you where talking about ) and it sends a stereo bypass signal through, perfect for the second amp. I actually used that amp for a Mazda 3 and did it the way you are thinking, pretty good result.

[Greg Roles]

[Mr ©harisma]

Use the stock wires, and just buy a jaycar 2 channel amp to suit the fronts. You don't need huge power to get half decent sound. The audiophiles will disagree, but spend the cash and research on speakers. THEY make the sound.

Yeah I disagree, speakers only reproduce sound which is true. You give a great pair of speakers a crap signal and they are gunna sounds crap... simple

Even in something as minor as a sub, I noticed a big big difference going from a Jaycar amp to an Audison. Of course you get the best for your budget