DNS series head unit (new generation dual core RNS-510 alternative)

[moda]

So where I can get firmware to fix my power on problem?

Send audiosources an email with your version numbers and issues.

I'm very hesitant to hand out firmwares these days now, too many people not reading the instructions, trying to flash the wrong versions and bricking their units.

[Hotbmwm3]

It took a while for Moda to finally make a definitive statement about the product being unfinished and buggy.

Moda, how do you rate Sandy's current customer service and support on the forum?

Do you see the forum primarily as group buy tool for sales and then if anyone has support issues they should email Sandy?

[moda]

It took a while for Moda to finally make a definitive statement about the product being unfinished and buggy.

Moda, how do you rate Sandy's current customer service and support on the forum?

Do you see the forum primarily as group buy tool for sales and then if anyone has support issues they should email Sandy?

Meh. Not a definitive statement, just my thoughts, particularly with the influx of people coming in wanting advice on whether to buy it. Don't want to give them the wrong idea about what the DNS is/was/will be/won't be, you know? I'd say it's particularly dependent on the cost. ~$400-500, great buy. $700+, not so much, you get to a point where you'd be better off spending the money on an OEM RNS or Zenec/Dynavin/Pioneer/Alpine unit. The DNS is freaking miles better than ANY other chinese unit on the market. When you put it in the context of 95% of the aftermarket headunits it competes and wins, but I don't think it can compete with companies that have much deeper pockets and a proven track record like Pioneer/Alpine/Kenwood etc.

Edit: The other thing to consider is there is pretty much nothing else that competes with the DNS, really. All other chinese headunits are rubbish. If you want full OEM style, you either just spend the money and get an RNS510 or go for the Zenec (~$1200+) or Dynavin (~$850), or you go for aftermarket style with Pioneer/Alpine/Kenwood and an idatalink module and mounting kit (which all adds up to a lot of money). There is nothing else out there even worth looking at, as far as i'm aware?

It's also just the way the market has gone at the moment. WinCE is a dead platform, most manufacturers are going towards Android, and Android Auto/Apple Carplay are the new hotness. The DNS810, with better MFD functionality, better BT, DAB+ radio, get rid of the internal GPS and all other software and JUST use AndroidAuto/CarPlay, that would be my ideal headunit.

As far as i'm concerned I have no issues with Sandy's conduct inside or outside of this forum. He has always been attentive to my messages/emails, certainly can't fault him, and I certainly don't blame him for the way the DNS went. That's all i'm going to say, the question is entirely inappropriate in my mind, anyway.

[pervakovcrea]

I've contacted with Lisa from Audiosources, she said what DNS 610 will be cost 290$, 10$ for navigation maps, 50$ for mirror link box and 85$ for shipping. I'm worry only about sound quality of this device, because at this moment I have Pioneer X-2500BT and it sounds great, but looks like a **it in my car. Also I can't to use multifunctional wheel, I haven't MFD features and some other things. I've also interested in RCD 510, but I need to buy Bluetooth module, parking assist module, and some other original and expensive electronic modules for my car.
And another question. Will it work great with my 10 speakers DynAudio audio system, simply there are only 4 contacts for speakers in DNS.
Thanks a lot

[GeorgeK]

Meh. Not a definitive statement, just my thoughts, particularly with the influx of people coming in wanting advice on whether to buy it. Don't want to give them the wrong idea about what the DNS is/was/will be/won't be, you know? I'd say it's particularly dependent on the cost. ~$400-500, great buy. $700+, not so much, you get to a point where you'd be better off spending the money on an OEM RNS or Zenec/Dynavin/Pioneer/Alpine unit. The DNS is freaking miles better than ANY other chinese unit on the market. When you put it in the context of 95% of the aftermarket headunits it competes and wins, but I don't think it can compete with companies that have much deeper pockets and a proven track record like Pioneer/Alpine/Kenwood etc.

Edit: The other thing to consider is there is pretty much nothing else that competes with the DNS, really. All other chinese headunits are rubbish. If you want full OEM style, you either just spend the money and get an RNS510 or go for the Zenec (~$1200+) or Dynavin (~$850), or you go for aftermarket style with Pioneer/Alpine/Kenwood and an idatalink module and mounting kit (which all adds up to a lot of money). There is nothing else out there even worth looking at, as far as i'm aware?

It's also just the way the market has gone at the moment. WinCE is a dead platform, most manufacturers are going towards Android, and Android Auto/Apple Carplay are the new hotness. The DNS810, with better MFD functionality, better BT, DAB+ radio, get rid of the internal GPS and all other software and JUST use AndroidAuto/CarPlay, that would be my ideal headunit.

As far as i'm concerned I have no issues with Sandy's conduct inside or outside of this forum. He has always been attentive to my messages/emails, certainly can't fault him, and I certainly don't blame him for the way the DNS went. That's all i'm going to say, the question is entirely inappropriate in my mind, anyway.

I have one of these:

https://avinusa.com/vw-8-avant2-full...on-system.html

Sitting next to me, waiting to be installed and it appears that it answers your question of whether anything can compete with the DNS. I bought it because of the amazing support I've discovered everywhere, including reports of them fixing issues quickly, and the fact he runs the support on his own website.

Combined with that, it also looks stock. I'll let you know how it goes when it's in, but for ~$750 I'm pretty excited.

[moda]

I've contacted with Lisa from Audiosources, she said what DNS 610 will be cost 290$, 10$ for navigation maps, 50$ for mirror link box and 85$ for shipping. I'm worry only about sound quality of this device, because at this moment I have Pioneer X-2500BT and it sounds great, but looks like a **it in my car. Also I can't to use multifunctional wheel, I haven't MFD features and some other things. I've also interested in RCD 510, but I need to buy Bluetooth module, parking assist module, and some other original and expensive electronic modules for my car.
And another question. Will it work great with my 10 speakers DynAudio audio system, simply there are only 4 contacts for speakers in DNS.
Thanks a lot

That's a pretty decent price, to be honest. I'd take that over the hordes of terrible generic chinese units (hell, even the Eonon is like $300USD ish). I'd be interested to see what the Mirrorlink box is like, haven't really seen anyone who has used it.

As far as i'm aware, it should work like any other aftermarket unit with the Dynaudio systems, ie fine. Most (ie all?) headunits will either have 2 or 4 speaker outs (left/right, or left/right front&back), which then goes to a either an amp or passive crossover and distributed to all other speakers. That's just my guess, you'd have to do your own research/find someone who knows.

I have one of these:

https://avinusa.com/vw-8-avant2-full...on-system.html

Sitting next to me, waiting to be installed and it appears that it answers your question of whether anything can compete with the DNS. I bought it because of the amazing support I've discovered everywhere, including reports of them fixing issues quickly, and the fact he runs the support on his own website.

Combined with that, it also looks stock. I'll let you know how it goes when it's in, but for ~$750 I'm pretty excited.

Yea i've seen that. It looks fairly decent. As far as I can tell, though, it seems like a pretty standard generic chinese android unit with a different android skin and aftersales support (the giveaway is the back of the unit, almost all chinese units use the same IO, which is an ISO harness and CAN breakout box, standard pin FM antennas, GPS antenna with standard screw port, and USB/iPod using pin outs, where as units like the Zenec, Dynavin and Audiosources have OEM specific ports, ie for VW units, ISO harness, internal CANBUS decoders and Fakra connections for everything else, ie antennas, GPS, USB etc).

Anyways, as I said, it looks very interesting, you'll have to let us know how it goes, particularly when it comes to OEM integration (MFD/Doors/AC etc).

[Sergey]

Send audiosources an email with your version numbers and issues.

I'm very hesitant to hand out firmwares these days now, too many people not reading the instructions, trying to flash the wrong versions and bricking their units.

Audiosources ignore my e-mails and still silent ((( This bug makes me insane... This forum is my last chance...

[moda]

Audiosources ignore my e-mails and still silent ((( This bug makes me insane... This forum is my last chance...

Read the instructions on the Google docs page linked in the 1st page of this thread, AND this document: https://www.dropbox.com/s/75l4keuonl...ANBUS.doc?dl=0

This firmware ONLY contains MPU and BSP files for units ONLY with the NEW CANBUS module ONLY (ie CAN: VW_02), dated February 2015: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oey7ekhkfo...U_BSP.zip?dl=0

Read all instructions and ONLY flash it if you understand 1) how to and 2) confirmed your unit type matches. It is your responsibility and you are at fault if you damage your unit.

I do have the equivalent MCU file, which I believe is for the new CPU units ('DNS810A'), but I have not confirmed this so I will not post it.

[GeorgeK]

@moda, I just installed it, and everything seems to be working pretty darn well! The MFD doesn't yet show anything but I'm not sure what it should show - phone calls don't do anything and I haven't tried nav yet. I also haven't tried AC yet.

I opened up the canbus app, and it's correctly reporting mileage, doors, and a bunch of other stuff so that's pretty cool. Radio reception is perfect, as it has a Fakra antenna on it. Bluetooth works perfectly - it won't sync my contacts yet but that's probably because I haven't got a couple of SD cards yet to put in it. I'll get some tomorrow and report back with the rest of the things I haven't tried. Oh yeah, and I'll take it for a drive .

[Hotbmwm3]

Are the people that bought the unit from Sandy happy with the customer support they are getting currently?

He seems to have deserted the forum for support given how little he now posts in here

Is everyone getting a quick turnaround on support emails?

If it wasn't for moda's help with support posts, how do people deal with someone in Australia for support?

I thought the point of paying the markup between what Audiosources sells for direct and what Sandy charged was to pay for Australian support.

Seems strange to me that Sandy took the profit and ran away, and Moda is left to do the support on here for free