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    No luck so far but I have only tested a few mins I know it can take some time for TMC to start working.
    Will have to try for longer tomorrow.







    Last edited by kamold; 07-12-2022 at 08:34 PM.
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    no error messages, that's good no checksums

    I have the same results as Kamold, will try longer on a drive tomorrow.
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    Usually it’s pretty quick to populate, but I see your Q signal quality is below 50, I think the default setting (in GEM) tells it to ignore RDS TMC when Q is below 55, so maybe that is the reason, but I feel like there is probably more work to do..

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    I think there is a threshold setting in GEM, I'll have a look in the morning.
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    Quality seems ok but tmc1 is not going active.
    Tmc2 status will go active and show 480 messages etc but then goes back to 0 again.
    There isn't a specific TMC debug logging option I'll just try the default and see if there might be any hints in there.



    Last edited by kamold; 08-12-2022 at 08:10 AM.
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    https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Ed...usp=share_link

    Haven't had a chance to look at this log as yet but I think there are TMC debug outputs in there.
    Will have a look later today.

    update:
    This one seems pretty obvious...

    [Error] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.info.traffic.tmc.TmcLocationTableMan ager] DB error: Database doesn't contain any TRAFFIC INFORMATION data!
    Last edited by kamold; 10-12-2022 at 11:46 AM.
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    I have been digging around some other region map files; it looks like the ones with working TMC data have an extra file
    TI.NDS

    The NDS files (Navigation Data Standard) are standard database files containing SQLite tables but have a funky format with encryption.

    I will try to dump this file and see what I get.
    /tsd/etc/enc_keystore_nav.ini

    Was there ever a MIB STD2 map for AUS with working TMC?, I tried version V12 with no luck.

    Here is what the NDS structure looks like.
    Additional TMC provider for MIB2 Discover Pro Units (HereTraffic)-overview_buildingblocks-nds-had-jpg
    Last edited by MIG; 11-12-2022 at 07:42 PM.
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    I managed to find an old portable hard drive with Discover MIB2 STD maps from V3 to V15.
    The last map with the TI.NDS file was V7 (May 2017) 0821 MP163-1245xROW2. That would make sense as about the end of 2017 we lost the ability to use TMC with the latest map update. Reverting back to the old (V7) map restored TMC.
    This was not a problem with MIB2 high (Discover Pro) as TMC was possible (using SUNA) and I believe still is. I no longer have access to MIB2 units now.
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    Would you mind sharing v7? Oldest one I have is v11.
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    Thanks Flipper Dog.
    I tried copying in the TI.NDS file.
    Debug showing:

    Code:
     [Error] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.info.traffic.tmc.providers.ProviderManager]	Provider set not found!
    
     [Info] navi: 22:35:33.295	[Error]	[iMX6.Navi.tsd.mibstd2.psd.v15.shortrange.LinkTree]	Psd_TrafficConfig_empty
    22:35:27.371     [Info] [J5e.Radio.DAB]	FIG Type: 0 Ext: 8 complete ListSize: 4 ReNews: 2
    22:35:33.354     [Warn] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.common.watchdog]	Watchdog DatabaseProvider needs a very long time (21967 milli seconds). 
    22:35:33.843    [Error] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.plugin.NDSMiddlewareRoot]	NDSMiddlewarePlugin::createUser( psd.v15.sr, 2000); called
    22:35:33.843     [Info] navi: 22:35:33.843	[Error]	[iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.plugin.NDSMiddlewareRoot]	NDSMiddlewarePlugin::createUser( psd.v15.sr, 2000); called
    22:35:27.418     [Info] [J5e.Radio.DspDabNotify]	getActQuality Token: 132 Quality: 86 AudioQuality: 0
    22:35:33.853    [Error] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.plugin.NDSMiddlewareRoot]	NDSMiddlewarePlugin::createUser( Traffic1, 2000); called
    22:35:27.527     [Info] [J5e.Radio.DspDabNotify]	getActQuality Token: 134 Quality: 84 AudioQuality: 0
    22:35:33.854     [Info] navi: 22:35:33.853	[Error]	[iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.plugin.NDSMiddlewareRoot]	NDSMiddlewarePlugin::createUser( Traffic1, 2000); called
    22:35:27.551     [Warn] [J5e.Bap.bap.uhvsd.control]	missing framedataAck detected, delay retry for a second
    22:35:33.856    [Error] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.plugin.NDSMiddlewareRoot]	NDSMiddlewarePlugin::createUser( psd.v15.lr, 2000); called
    22:35:27.571     [Info] [J5e.Radio.AUDIO]	LIM TargetThr=-1.300000 dB, ActualThr=-1.300012 dB, Gain=0.999970 dB, isrCount=0
    22:35:33.857     [Info] navi: 22:35:33.856	[Error]	[iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.plugin.NDSMiddlewareRoot]	NDSMiddlewarePlugin::createUser( psd.v15.lr, 2000); called
    22:35:27.572     [Info] [J5e.Radio.AUDIO]	IMX Output DMA: sMaxRef = 0x0000
    22:35:33.935    [Error] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.query.traffic.TrafficDbReader]	The Database doesn't contain a TI building block (or it it somehow... empty)
    22:35:33.935     [Info] navi: 22:35:33.935	[Error]	[iMX6.Navi.tsd.nav.middleware.nds.query.traffic.TrafficDbReader]	The Database doesn't contain a TI building block (or it it somehow... empty)
    22:35:33.936    [Error] [iMX6.Navi.tsd.info.traffic.tmc.TmcLocationTableManager]	DB error: Database doesn't contain any TRAFFIC INFORMATION data!
    Last edited by kamold; 12-12-2022 at 08:09 PM.
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