2016 Volkswagen Navigation Map DVD V9 Australia for RNS 510 Maps VW OEM Pre Order

[theresanothersteve]

All I'm saying is if you purchase an upgrade, rather than a full version, you need to keep the original disks. In your example of the Office products you need to keep the disks you need to be able to reinstall the product.

If you wish to abide by the licence agreement, check the EULA to see how many devices the software can be installed on. If it is only one to comply with the EULA you must uninstall it from the original device before you can on sell it. (This also means the EULA must allow you to sell the content). Even if you do not need it for the upgrade (ie V6 will upgrade to V8 without the need for V7) you should remove it from your device before you sell it if the EULA only allows one installation. I know, I'm being pedantic, but that's why I said at the start I don't want to take the high ground. Nor do I want to judge...

I find music has a similar dilemma. I have music on LP, cassette, and CD (some titles in all 3 formats). I think I should be allowed to download an MP3 of the music free of charge (and if you buy some titles through Amazon you can) because I've already paid for it at least once, and I can only listen to one format at the time. The big end of town disagrees, although some artists have said they don't mind.

The bottom line is I agree with you, what you want to do should be allowable. But I think you'll find the agreement you entered into (implicitly because you didn't sign anything but implied agreement by continuing with the install) doesn't share that opinion. Software pirates and the litigation driven society we live in has made a lot of vendors take the heavy stance.

[AdamD]

All I'm saying is if you purchase an upgrade, rather than a full version, you need to keep the original disks. In your example of the Office products you need to keep the disks you need to be able to reinstall the product.

Assuming the license does explicitly state that the disc is an upgrade only, and that the EULA is an addendum to the original rather than a replacement, you've still got the license over the original map content that was installed on the device at the factory. RNS-510s aren't sold without maps or a license for same, which is why I'd be surprised if this is an upgrade license at all. Irrespective of whether you had v8 on the device before you upgraded to 9, or v5 - as long as you had a valid licensed copy of any version on the device, you should be absolutely fine to sell your v8 (or whatever) disc - as long as you still have your license over the original maps distributed with the device originally.

[arcadelt]

All I'm saying is if you purchase an upgrade, rather than a full version, you need to keep the original disks. In your example of the Office products you need to keep the disks you need to be able to reinstall the product.

Great, we agree on something then.

If you wish to abide by the licence agreement, check the EULA to see how many devices the software can be installed on.

As I said earlier: "I can find nothing that looks like a licence agreement, except a note on the back of the package that parallel use is authorised for one system only".

If it is only one to comply with the EULA you must uninstall it from the original device before you can on sell it. (This also means the EULA must allow you to sell the content). Even if you do not need it for the upgrade (ie V6 will upgrade to V8 without the need for V7) you should remove it from your device before you sell it if the EULA only allows one installation.

You are writing in generalities, which I guess is OK, but it does not consider the specific circumstances of this device and situation. You do not uninstall one version of the maps in order to install the next.

I find music has a similar dilemma. I have music on LP, cassette, and CD (some titles in all 3 formats). I think I should be allowed to download an MP3 of the music free of charge (and if you buy some titles through Amazon you can) because I've already paid for it at least once, and I can only listen to one format at the time. The big end of town disagrees, although some artists have said they don't mind.

Actually, I don't think you should get free access to download digital music just because you have it on LP, cassette, and/or CD, but I do think you should be able to convert (format shift) your physical media to a digital format so you can listen to it on any of your devices (space shift), provided that it's for personal domestic use and you keep the original media. What is clear is that you have every right to sell the LP, cassette, and CD if you buy a digital version of the same music or if you no longer listen to that music.

The bottom line is I agree with you, what you want to do should be allowable. But I think you'll find the agreement you entered into (implicitly because you didn't sign anything but implied agreement by continuing with the install) doesn't share that opinion. Software pirates and the litigation driven society we live in has made a lot of vendors take the heavy stance.

Again, as I said earlier: "I can find nothing that looks like a licence agreement, except a note on the back of the package that parallel use is authorised for one system only".

I know, I'm being pedantic, but that's why I said at the start I don't want to take the high ground. Nor do I want to judge...

You made a judgement when you said "what you are doing is morally and ethically wrong"; and prefixing your opinion with "Without taking the high ground" is actually not a modifier - it's akin to saying to someone "with all due respect" and then saying something disrespectful. That said, as you are a software developer, I understand that you are close to the problem of illegal use and copying of software, so I get your position. However, taking consideration of the comments made in this thread and having done my own research, I am now very comfortable that I can sell my previous version of the maps once I have installed the new version. Thanks for your input.