Not happy

[DutchAussie]

Thanks Guys,
I spoke to the supplier yesterday and they are being fairley helpful.
They say that the fuel is to the oz standard and can provide a certificate to prove it.
They supply 700.000 ltrs a month and are going to VW to see if we can avoid having to pump it out and flushing the system.
Some compensation is on the way but only for the cost of the fuel so far.
We will see.

To put your mind at rest, I bought a new 2007 model VW Caddy in October last year and have so far done 5700 KM. 74% all the fuel ever put in the van has been Biodiesel. I have been running on 100% Biodiesel for 4 months!

I know there is a sticker "Not for Biodiesel" on the fuel filler cover but it is my van!
The engine is ticking over like a charm.

If you want more information go to my Home Site, I will give frequent updates on my experience with Biodiesel.

Regards,

Arie

[DutchAussie]

Thanks Guys,
I spoke to the supplier yesterday and they are being fairley helpful.
They say that the fuel is to the oz standard and can provide a certificate to prove it.
They supply 700.000 ltrs a month and are going to VW to see if we can avoid having to pump it out and flushing the system.
Some compensation is on the way but only for the cost of the fuel so far.
We will see.

Have a look at this site for more information on Biodiesel.

http://www.farmersfuel.com.au/Biodiesel.html

Regards,

Arie

[phaeton]

Thats way cool Arie a BioDiesel Caddy in SA

[flightlessbird]

We have had a few in the shop that smell like Maccas, makes you want to go to the drive thru for a quick snack

[gldgti]

from the sounds of it, this issue has basically been resolved - let me reassure you - you wont have any problems using biodiesel, but because of retailers like Volume Plus selling bio-blends that are low quality, VWA wont (for the moment) say that you are "biodiesel safe".

only when our pollies get their butts into gear and make sure there is strict adherence to the standards will we see VWA take off that sticker.

[DutchAussie]

We have had a few in the shop that smell like
Maccas, makes you want to go to the drive thru for a quick snack

Having worked in Refineries for over 40 years, I don't like the smell of Diesel.

The Diesel we made in Adelaide Refinery smelled OK because of the way it was processed. The Diesel we buy in SA now stinks as it comes from interstate refineries who use different processes. I don't like to get it on my hands.

However I drive past the service stations nowadays with a big smile on my face. Biodiesel is the fuel for me. A lot more work but it feels and smells good.

Regards,

Arie

[Altered Sprinter]

Australia is only one year behind on Euro standard Diesel
VW will not certify Bio Diesel fuels until we match the euro blend of 15 pp/m currently Australian Diesel for ULSD is 50/ppm Shell and BP have the top end of Diesel fuels , it has a low Oder smell similar to low oder turps
Mobil Caltex and Liberty discounters direct import Diesel fuel from Singapore, this fuel has no additives and has a very high Kero like smell the fumes are quite obnoxious.
Imported fuels that have very little reprocessing in Australian refineries are to be considered LSD rated with a very high sulfur content, in fact they should not be sold in Australia as to not meting our official fuel ratings,
I'm not sure if this has slipped by without any one noticing or it's an issue between Commonwealth and State governments as to regulating the quality of the said Fuel
I was under the impression both WA and S Australia had the higher mandates for quality fuels admittedly it's a voluntary request for refiners or suppliers to comply to.
Looking at the site a few links up with Bio-Diesel, it will not comply to current standards as the site states 2001 2003 Australian fuel standards,they have changed since then January 2006 from LSD to ULSD Diesel.
Note: Australian sulfur content of ULSD is set at 300/p/pm not to exceed 500 p/pm same as the States Australia imports six types of cheap oils most of which has a very high Sulfur content , this is the negotiable smell you would pick up on especially if you sniff the back end of a Ford Transit V a Mercedes Sprinter, two different exhausts , smoke coming from the rear of a VW running Diesel is a clear indicator the fuel is not to specifications of Euro IV mandates.

Aire the Bio mix was in fact most likely better than standard Diesel in both LSD and ULSD it wont kill you caddy as they run on B20 in Europe as to this now being the standard fuel.
Look in your manual for fuel as I have not a manual to this model, it should say B5 for Bio fuels Ethanol based only [But it doesn't say this] also this depends on which engine you have and exhaust system it's either the old Euro 3 standard muffler or you have a particulate exhaust system that regenerates itself every 2 thousand click's this system is now standard for July models 2006 in Europe Australia August I think for Euro IV specs.
Diesel depending on when it's imported is either a winter Diesel or a summer diesel the Winter Diesel is refereed to as B1 it has a higher mix of kerosene , this can also give a higher unpleasant aromatic from the exhaust fumes.
Australian refinery's each spent over 300 to 500 million upgrading for diesel refineries to met the ULSD mandates. Mobil; and Caltex were on exemptions, but I think they may be now compliant, but do not add an additive to keep the fuel at the maximum specifications.
There are solutions to improving the fuel ,but its another thread.
Richard

[DutchAussie]

Dougie
Providing the fuel is from BP or Shell you have no real problems the Bio mix is to Australian standards as to euro v fuel watch mandates.
Most of Germany in the main stream now runs B20 as standard Diesel fuels.
As it is an ethanol base fuel, this fuel will have a negative impact on your engine and do less damage,than standard Diesel ULSD, VW should have an Australian rating on ULSD Diesel fuels sold in Australia.
The seller should have had a pump warning as this fuel can damage older Diesel engines with long term use in some engines
But how did you know you put Bio fuel in it?
Richard

Altered Sprinter,

you mentioned "an Ethanol based Fuel". Are you talking about Biodiesel made with Ethanol instead of Methanol?

[brackie]

Wow, Alfred.... There's a lot of info in your post, most of which I wasn't aware. Where did you gain this knowledge?

I reckon the majority of motorists (how I hate that term!) just go for the cheapest fuel. I get my farm tank filled by a fuel distributor and I have no idea where the diesel comes from. Perhaps the fact that I've had no IP leakage is due to the shonky fuel he's supplying

I was aware that a lot of the cut price fuel companies were buying takerfuls from Singapore etc so how can we guarantee that it meets the Oz standard? It should as there is legislation to support this.

[phaeton]

Altered Sprinter = Richard not Alfred brackie

Richard has heaps of knowledge not many people know lol

It does suck the we are way behind on Diesel Tech VW, MB & the rest of DCX will not bring in the Clean Diesel tech eg NOx filters & SCR tech until Aussie Diesel fuel is of higher grade (not sure if this applies to trucks too I think DCX are planning on bringing SCR & NOx tech into the whole Truck range)

Aussie Goverment give me Clean Diesel Tech please