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[Spoddy]

Bio fuels - a frustrating topic - Thats why they and now many other parts of the world are facing rising food prices and shortages as crops get diverted to fuel rather than the table....

Bio fuels are not the answer if they are allowed to come from leading sources rather than end (waste) sources....

[Preen59]

Bio fuels - a frustrating topic - Thats why they and now many other parts of the world are facing rising food prices and shortages as crops get diverted to fuel rather than the table....

Bio fuels are not the answer if they are allowed to come from leading sources rather than end (waste) sources....

That is true i am hearing you there. The price of oil is a ****ing gip though, and the fact that the government say they "can't do anything to fix it". Knobs.

[Spoddy]

I've been watching the price of diesel since buying the golf last June (or was it July ) and since the politicians raised the focus on ULP the price of diesel has just gone up and up.

I send an e-mail each month to the NRMA asking them to engage but to no avail They seem to have gone very silent....

[Preen59]

I've been watching the price of diesel since buying the golf last June (or was it July ) and since the politicians raised the focus on ULP the price of diesel has just gone up and up.

I send an e-mail each month to the NRMA asking them to engage but to no avail They seem to have gone very silent....

I paid $1.70/L last week. Its highway robbery.

[Spoddy]

Hey Preen59,

You will need winter diesel out your way

[Golf Loon]

Yeah I just changed to a TDI T4 and although its not thirsty, Diesel is spiralling.

Bring on the bio diesel moonshiners I say

[Preen59]

Hey Preen59,

You will need winter diesel out your way

Tell me about it. It's about 3 degrees outside at the moment. Haha, last year one of the guys from work was out west and filled up with summer fuel, middle of winter.

Monday morning his fuel line froze on the way to work!

[Preen59]

Yeah I just changed to a TDI T4 and although its not thirsty, Diesel is spiralling.

Bring on the bio diesel moonshiners I say

Not for us lucky common rail fellas, they need to figure out how to get it to lubricate under extreme pressure so we can get more than 250 k's out of a fuel pump!

[Manaz]

Ethanol has substantially less specific power than petrol. So for all the advantages of the higher octane and it's price, in the end you get less km per dollar out of it (or a mix of it) than you do out of straight petrol because there's simply less energy bound up in its chemical structure than there is in petrol.

Ethanol is not the big saviour people make it out to be.

There are some interesting developments in diesel however, including a new coal-to-gas-to-diesel refinery about to start up in Australia with an estimated production capacity (expandable) of 20,000 barrels a day (and there's *no* sulphur at all!). Hopefully this will take off and we'll start to see diesel prices drop again.

[The_Hawk]

BP have "renewable diesel", made from tallow or some other sources, which is chemically identical to diesel. The BS about "fewer greenhouse gases over its lifecycle" is because although the diesel is the same as normal diesel, they count the part where the tallow is growing and absorbing C02 as a positive benifit as apposed to digging up normal diesel and burning it.

The down side is that tallow is becoming more and more expensive because of demand making it borderline cost effective vs normal diesel for the oil companies. (The farmers (or more likely the middle men) are making more money).

The really sad part is that if the oil companies step up and do the farming themselves, the product could be much cheaper than normal diesel. But they are not "in the farming business". (Besides all that chances are they could sell the tallow raw and make more money from other oil companies). Sure I understand that everyone is trying to make the most money for their shareholders, but there is always talk of how "green" a company or product is. How much time, effort and money a company is putting into "environmentally sustainable initiavtives"... but you know who is paying for all this bull****? The consumer. Do you think ANY company is taking a hit on the bottom line to be kind to the environment? Or do you think the consumer is paying a little bit more to be "green"...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing at BP or any one company in particular. Sure being green costs more, especially now, but with ever rising profits for the companies and every rising costs for the users, when will it stop?


Link to BP's Renewable Diesel for anyone who is interested:
http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarti...tentId=7037544