agreed in full...I call it the "Help Desk" syndromic.
Rather than investigate an issue by using the supplied documentation , call the Help Desk, some much easier!
Yeah - whilst Maverick's wording isn't always the best (neither is mine!), it still never fails to amaze me why so many people feel that it's "belittling" or "condescending" to be advised to check the owners manual. So I'm looking at this from the other side, I don't understand peoples "attitude" in response to that...
agreed in full...I call it the "Help Desk" syndromic.
Rather than investigate an issue by using the supplied documentation , call the Help Desk, some much easier!
Uh. None of us have any idea what car pineapples has, how old it is, or if the manual is even still with the car! Being a newbie, he may not have noticed our search function either.
But obviously he hasn't given much info out either so can only expect a vague response.
Either way, he probably has the info he needs now, but none of our bickering was necessary. We just look a bit silly now eh lads?
Peace
-1990 Mk2 GTI 5-door with AMK 20vt (260hp @ wheels)
-Arrow/Rotax 125 TAG X1E Go Kart
Correct... the OP question was completely answered by the 1st reply - post #2, by Maverick.
I'm sure VAG takes into account morons like me who don't bother to read the manual cover to cover before ever sitting in the thing. I would hazard a guess that there's quite a sizeable number of people who haven't and will never read the manual (although clearly they aren't usually forum dwellers). Could you imagine the failure rate of their vehicles if they failed if the owner had not read the entire manual?
My observation was thus based upon logic, not a detailed knowledge of the manual. To me, Pepe Simpleton, logic would tell me that a component with a measurement designed to be visually observed should probably fall within the limits displayed on that component during all forms of normal operation, including when the engine is cold at start-up... but hey, that's just me, more than happy to be corrected if somewhere in the manual it says "it's fine if the coolant level is below the MIN line at startup"... it strikes me as an odd approach for VAG given the OP is unlikely to be the only person to have checked their coolant levels while the engine is cold.
As for the welcome to the new member... I agree with Busby. This is supposed to be a community, our welcome to new people shouldn't really be along the lines of "I know the answer, but I'm not telling you, go look it up yourself".
But this is teh internets, where else are we supposed to express our rage?
Last edited by Transporter; 23-06-2011 at 12:21 PM. Reason: save space
Whilst I can appreciate your logic, as I have already said many times, in this case you are wrong. Not "maybe wrong", not "kinda wrong", just wrong. Black and white. Can I ask that you please stop providing advice that WILL POTENTIALLY DAMAGE MEMBERS CARS until have you checked the manual (presuming that the OP has a Golf MK6 here) and understand the advice that it provides.
Where your logic fails is that you are "assuming" that the "Max" line means the maximum that the coolant will rise to when the car is hot and under normal operation. This is not correct. It is a "maximum fill line" based on when the engine is cool.
If you actually read the manual for the MK6 Golf rather than being mislead by google, you would find that when the car is cool and on a flat surface, the coolant should be within the "shaded" areas between the two lines, and if not filled so that it is within that area.
I'm going to close this because I simply don't see the use of people constantly coming in here and posting INCORRECT INFORMATION which could not only potentially cause terminal harm to your car, but cause severe injury to the operator who fails to check the coolant correctly (as per the owners manual).
If you don't have an owners manual for your car, then call your VW dealer and request it.
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