Castrol Edge Sport

[Finance_Analyst]

However in Sydney at least, I've seen Liqui-Moly Top Tec 4200 5W-30 and Penrite Enviro+ 5W-30 at Autobarn. You can also mail order Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 here (link) and here (link). I'm sure you could also get Castrol EDGE Professional Longlife III 5W-30 or Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow Longlife III 5W-30 from your local Audi, Skoda or VW dealer.

Thanks mate. Although I would think the castrol bought via the dealer is probably 30% more expensive than what you could get elsewhere, not withstanding that you can go to Repco on a 20% sale day and get the 504 Penrite or Shell Helix...

[Diesel_vert]

Thanks mate. Although I would think the castrol bought via the dealer is probably 30% more expensive than what you could get elsewhere, not withstanding that you can go to Repco on a 20% sale day and get the 504 Penrite or Shell Helix...

You would think right.
Having said that, this bloke managed to score some Castrol 504/507 @ $78 for 5L.

On the flip side, from what I've read some charged up to $130, so I suppose it depends on which dealer you visit - keep an open mind I guess...

[ian]

What should a Vw owner expect when they get their car serviced,The owners specifications hand book clearly states that the oil used in late model Vw diesel must be 504/507 long life oil on a 12 month service.
I recently had my 2009 golf Gt diesel serviced at an independentt Vw service centre as it was only a oil and filter change ,i watched from the doorway to my surprise i saw the oil being taken from a blue 200 liter drum with Atlantic oil stamped on the side and 10w40 synthetic
on the label ,i told the mechanic that was not the right oil for my car but explained that it had been refilled with 507 ,on returning home i rang Atlantic and voiced my concerns, They told me it was not the right oil for my car and would ring the service centre as it would wreck my engine, i then rang the service centre and he said the mechanic had made a mistake and bring it back and he would make sure i had the right oil in the car 504/507 castrol professionalong lifefe 3,
I returned the car and the service centre owner went off to get the right oil from supercheap when he returned he had 3 5litre containers of Castrol edge Titanium 5w30 he assured my it was 504/507 oil as he walked past i walked into the workshop to read one of the labels which clearly stated it was only 502/504.
When i got home i rang the Castrol technical help line and was imformed the oil was for pre 2006 diesel engines with out a DPF ,and the oil would damage my DPF if i left it in my car, I again rang the service centre and was told it was Castrol professiolong lifelife oil he had bought from Supercheap and the oil in my car was the right oil .
So i rang Supercheap and they told me they have never sold that oil and European car service centres can stock it like VW Audi Skoda and the like ,
So what oil is really in your car, we take it for granted that the service centres are doing the right thing and using the right oil, but are they a quick check on the Super cheap sits shows that Castrol edge Titanium 5w30 is on special for $58 yet they have Shell helix ultra for $70 at repco which i bought to day,
This will be the third oil change ive had to have in 200km, if i hadn't observed the wrong oil being put in my car in the first place i would of been non the wiser.

[Transporter]

Thanks mate. Although I would think the castrol bought via the dealer is probably 30% more expensive than what you could get elsewhere, not withstanding that you can go to Repco on a 20% sale day and get the 504 Penrite or Shell Helix...

There is also Liqui Moly oil at some shops that is reasonably priced and made in Germany.

[Diesel_vert]

What should a Vw owner expect when they get their car serviced,The owners specifications hand book clearly states that the oil used in late model Vw diesel must be 504/507 long life oil on a 12 month service.
I recently had my 2009 golf Gt diesel serviced at an independentt Vw service centre as it was only a oil and filter change ,i watched from the doorway to my surprise i saw the oil being taken from a blue 200 liter drum with Atlantic oil stamped on the side and 10w40 synthetic
on the label ,i told the mechanic that was not the right oil for my car but explained that it had been refilled with 507 ,on returning home i rang Atlantic and voiced my concerns, They told me it was not the right oil for my car and would ring the service centre as it would wreck my engine, i then rang the service centre and he said the mechanic had made a mistake and bring it back and he would make sure i had the right oil in the car 504/507 castrol professionalong lifefe 3,
I returned the car and the service centre owner went off to get the right oil from supercheap when he returned he had 3 5litre containers of Castrol edge Titanium 5w30 he assured my it was 504/507 oil as he walked past i walked into the workshop to read one of the labels which clearly stated it was only 502/504.
When i got home i rang the Castrol technical help line and was imformed the oil was for pre 2006 diesel engines with out a DPF ,and the oil would damage my DPF if i left it in my car, I again rang the service centre and was told it was Castrol professiolong lifelife oil he had bought from Supercheap and the oil in my car was the right oil .
So i rang Supercheap and they told me they have never sold that oil and European car service centres can stock it like VW Audi Skoda and the like ,
So what oil is really in your car, we take it for granted that the service centres are doing the right thing and using the right oil, but are they a quick check on the Super cheap sits shows that Castrol edge Titanium 5w30 is on special for $58 yet they have Shell helix ultra for $70 at repco which i bought to day,
This will be the third oil change ive had to have in 200km, if i hadn't observed the wrong oil being put in my car in the first place i would of been non the wiser.

Hi ian, I've sent a PM.

But yeah, they've basically used the wrong the type of oil. 502/505 oil is not suitable for any Mk5 Golf with a diesel engine - regardless whether it is equipped with a DPF!

[Getti]

Diesel_vert, your knowledge of oil is impressive!

I understand the long term importance of using the right oil and the best quality oil. So after reading this thread, the general consensus seems to be that while manual for my MKV GTI states that 502 is ok, 504/507 is better and therefore preferred.

Are all 504/507 oils pretty much the same or suitable? I know that Shell Helix is one of the few on the shelf that seem to be 504/507 approved. In short, is there one brand of oil that you would choose that can be purchased off the shelf, is 504/507 approved and suited to a MKV GTI?

Also, if the dealer was to use 502 during the service (I am not sure what they used) and then I top up between services with 504/507, is this ok?

[Diesel_vert]

Diesel_vert, your knowledge of oil is impressive!

Would now be a bad time to state the usual disclaimer regarding advice from the internet?

I understand the long term importance of using the right oil and the best quality oil. So after reading this thread, the general consensus seems to be that while manual for my MKV GTI states that 502 is ok, 504/507 is better and therefore preferred.

Are all 504/507 oils pretty much the same or suitable? I know that Shell Helix is one of the few on the shelf that seem to be 504/507 approved. In short, is there one brand of oil that you would choose that can be purchased off the shelf, is 504/507 approved and suited to a MKV GTI?

Any oil that says "VW 504/507 approved" on the label (which means that it has passed VW's internal certification process) is fine. The benefit of any OEM oil certification system is that you are guaranteed a certain level of performance, as dictated by the OEM test requirements (as long as the OEM tests actually reflect real-life conditions! ). Anyway, this gives you the freedom to choose your favourite brand of oil, without the need to wonder whether it will be suitable or not.

Though unlike Europe, obviously the concept doesn't work as well in Australia given the limited amount of choice.



As for off-the-shelf availability, so far I've seen Liqui-Moly Top Tec 4200 5W-30 (Autobarn), Penrite Enviro+ 5W-30 (Aussie company ), and Shell Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 in Sydney.

I'm partial to Liqui-Moly, but only because it's German, and of their novelty value in Australia (yeah, not a serious reason I know).

Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 (@ $13 per litre = $65/5L) represents excellent value at GL Lubricants if you live in Sydney and can pick up (shipping is extra).

Also, if the dealer was to use 502 during the service (I am not sure what they used) and then I top up between services with 504/507, is this ok?

Yes, it should be okay.

[gavs]

What should a Vw owner expect when they get their car serviced,The owners specifications hand book clearly states that the oil used in late model Vw diesel must be 504/507 long life oil on a 12 month service.
I recently had my 2009 golf Gt diesel serviced at an independentt Vw service centre as it was only a oil and filter change ,i watched from the doorway to my surprise i saw the oil being taken from a blue 200 liter drum with Atlantic oil stamped on the side and 10w40 synthetic
on the label ,i told the mechanic that was not the right oil for my car but explained that it had been refilled with 507 ,on returning home i rang Atlantic and voiced my concerns, They told me it was not the right oil for my car and would ring the service centre as it would wreck my engine, i then rang the service centre and he said the mechanic had made a mistake and bring it back and he would make sure i had the right oil in the car 504/507 castrol professionalong lifefe 3,
I returned the car and the service centre owner went off to get the right oil from supercheap when he returned he had 3 5litre containers of Castrol edge Titanium 5w30 he assured my it was 504/507 oil as he walked past i walked into the workshop to read one of the labels which clearly stated it was only 502/504.
When i got home i rang the Castrol technical help line and was imformed the oil was for pre 2006 diesel engines with out a DPF ,and the oil would damage my DPF if i left it in my car, I again rang the service centre and was told it was Castrol professiolong lifelife oil he had bought from Supercheap and the oil in my car was the right oil .
So i rang Supercheap and they told me they have never sold that oil and European car service centres can stock it like VW Audi Skoda and the like ,
So what oil is really in your car, we take it for granted that the service centres are doing the right thing and using the right oil, but are they a quick check on the Super cheap sits shows that Castrol edge Titanium 5w30 is on special for $58 yet they have Shell helix ultra for $70 at repco which i bought to day,
This will be the third oil change ive had to have in 200km, if i hadn't observed the wrong oil being put in my car in the first place i would of been non the wiser.

That's a terrible experience ian, and this is why I have spoken with the dealership I will be getting my car serviced at and they have assured me that they are more than happy to put any oil I bring in with the car in the engine, so long as it's an approved 504/507 oil which is why I will be supplying a bottle of Liqui Moly Top Tech 4200 with the car at service time

[ian]

Ive just finished changing the oil to the right type 504/507, the vehicle has had 3 oil changes now in 250km ,the last one the oil has done only 50 km
If any one want a free 4.5 literss of 502/504 syntheticc oil it yours for free just pick it up in St Marys NSW.
Just send me a PM

[Transporter]

Ive just finished changing the oil to the right type 504/507, the vehicle has had 3 oil changes now in 250km ,the last one the oil has done only 50 km
If any one want a free 4.5 literss of 502/504 syntheticc oil it yours for free just pick it up in St Marys NSW.
Just send me a PM

Is it the oil that you've drained from your engine? If yes, I wouldn't recommend using it in another engine mate, the oil is already dark and containing the pollutants from your crankcase.