Thinking about an Eos...

[Swallowtail]

Looking at a new Eos TDI DSG, any gotchas from you guys out there with them? Likely to be quite a long term purchase, so looking for any reliability concerns etc.

[phaeton]

Lams' fiance has one

[Swallowtail]

Who's Lam?

[team_v]

There was a thread on here where the roof wouldn't close due to material being caught in the latch.
Apart from that i haven't heard anything bad about them except the asking price is a bit exhorbidant.


Considered a audi a3 convertible as an alternative?
Just realised we don't get the a3 convertible in a diesel.

Very limited options for a convertible diesel then.

[silvershadow]

Looking at a new Eos TDI DSG, any gotchas from you guys out there with them? Likely to be quite a long term purchase, so looking for any reliability concerns etc.

Have a MY09 TDI DSG for 18 months & 16000K up - no problems of note so far except a small water leak around the RHS tail light assembly in the boot lid on delivery due to insufficient sealer being applied during assembly. This was fixed under warranty with no hassles by dealer.

No assembly or quality control lapses and paintwork is flawless.

Diesel performance and economy is great - averaging 5.2 litres/100km with climate control operating for 80% country/20% city driving.

It is essential to keep roof, door and window seals lubricated every 6 months with Krytox GPL105 to stop water leaks and rattles - expensive but really works. You only have to apply the thinnest smear; too much and the residue will wash off onto the window glass and have to be removed with "Prepsol" or similar degreaser. I understand Krytox is a PTFE-type lubricant and not a silicone-based lubricant [silicon does not work and can affect the seals]. Most water leak and roof problems occur with pre-MY08 models especially ones which have been purchased second-hand. Problems with later vehicles are almost 100% related to lack of regular seal lubrication. Vehicles in cold climates [UK & USA] appear to have more problems than those in warm climates such as ours; my belief is that this is due to shrinkage and hardening of the seals at low temperatures causing gaps to be created which then allows water penetration until the seals warm up [from using the heater or the ambient temperature] and expand.

Price is expensive at first glance but when you compare the Eos with the alternative CC models, it is worth the extra on a value-for-money basis alone let alone quality. Dealers will negotiate on floor stock but not on factory orders - best discount for factory order is around 5% on list.

I think the Eos will be a collectible classic car of the future and the current MY10 will probably be the last of the original model before it is "upgraded" with the possible adverse consequences involved. As such, I believe it is a sound purchase and my partner has "put her money where my mouth is". I still have not driven her Eos as I cannot get her out of the driver's seat - enough said!!!!

[Swallowtail]

Thanks guys... the convertible bit is bonus to be honest, my wife really just wants a 2 door coupe. Looking so far at 123d, CLC200, and the Eos. 123d is probably a better car, but a fair bit extra $. Very different too - a lot faster, sportier ride, a bit more prestige... Will be mid to late 60s OTR I reckon. We should be able to get the Eos for a bit less than that.

The roof leak reports are a bit of a worry, but good to hear your comments silvershadow. Thanks for that.

[team_v]

At least the eos has a hard top folding roof so it is less likely to degrade over time.

You would have to go a 3 series/z4 to get that in a bmw.
= more expensive again.

[Lams]

Who's Lam?

Hello that'd be me and she's my wife now

They're good cars, quite solid but suffer from the same mkV problems - mainly aircon. We were going to get a MX-5 but the flexibility of rear seats and a bigger boot sold us.

We're not big people and the rear seats can be used as seats. When the roof is up the boot is quite wide and I'd even call it practical

It is recommended that you apply Krytox to all the seals every 6 months. VW would charge you about 150 to do this, or you can get a bottle elsewhere yourself for 100 which should be enough for two treatments. (oh I see silvershadow has already covered this one)

last of all, make sure you get extended warranty, that roof would not be cheap to repair.

[silvershadow]

Thanks guys... the convertible bit is bonus to be honest, my wife really just wants a 2 door coupe. Looking so far at 123d, CLC200, and the Eos. 123d is probably a better car, but a fair bit extra $. Very different too - a lot faster, sportier ride, a bit more prestige... Will be mid to late 60s OTR I reckon. We should be able to get the Eos for a bit less than that.

The roof leak reports are a bit of a worry, but good to hear your comments silvershadow. Thanks for that.

There is a lot more information on my other haunt, the VW Eos Club Forum although it tends to be dominated by the Northern Hemisphere members. I also suspect there are a number of trolls working on behalf of other manufacturers trying to discredit the Eos with regular "tales of woe". You might fiind it worthwhile browsing this forum with the previous caveats in mind. You can access the Forum using the link below:

http://www.vweosclub.com/forums/

As always, the final choice should be determined by your wife's preferences and test driving experience. I should point out a VERY high percentage of Eos owners are female no doubt because they find the car has style, relative exclusivity, is enjoyable to drive, does not attract resentment or vandalism like certain other brands and is relatively affordable. After all, what other car gives you the option of being a 2 door coupe, a 2 door coupe with sunroof and a fully fledged convertible whilst having the reassuring security of a metal roof when parked for less than $60,000 OTR. The car is also a "wolf in sheep's clothing" for an experienced driver especially the diesel when on the open road.

I suggest putting the hard word on your preferred dealer to let your wife have a demonstrator over a weekend before making her final choice .

[Swallowtail]

Thanks shadow... we already did that... Picked up a demonstrator yesterday and had a good drive last night, took it back today.

I'll check out that link too...