VW Golf R20 - 270HP, AWD

[dubbed]

Ohhhh yeah!!!!!!

The wheels look fine to me - very reminiscent of the 997 Turbo wheels.

[team_v]

Ohhhh yeah!!!!!!

The wheels look fine to me - very reminiscent of the 997 Turbo wheels.

997 Turbo's





New RS6's

[Golf Houso]

997 Turbo's

I love it how they're not symmetrical.

[Treza360]

Is it just me or is it even more understated than a MkV R32.
I need to see some side by side pics with a TSI, GTI and R20 but to me it looks to lack presence.
Cheers,
Trent

[schoona]

I like the look very very much.

[RolfGolf]

I have to agree with Trezza - at the moment the pics do nothing for me ... The front looks okay (I guess), but the rear of the car just looks wrong to me - especially the four door in the promo shot ... Also I'm disappointed the exhausts are still in the centre, but I guess they have to differentiate it from the GTI somehow now that the GTI has the good looking exhausts(!)

I'll wait until I see one on the street before bagging it completely - for me the MKIV R32 still rules the roost in the looks department. The MK V and VI look bland in comparison.

Do you think we'll get the 3 and the 5 door versions in AUS?

[Yevvy]

I have to agree with Trezza - at the moment the pics do nothing for me ... The front looks okay (I guess), but the rear of the car just looks wrong to me - especially the four door in the promo shot ... Also I'm disappointed the exhausts are still in the centre, but I guess they have to differentiate it from the GTI somehow now that the GTI has the good looking exhausts(!)

I'll wait until I see one on the street before bagging it completely - for me the MKIV R32 still rules the roost in the looks department. The MK V and VI look bland in comparison.

Do you think we'll get the 3 and the 5 door versions in AUS?

I actually like how the exhausts are in the middle, except they looked good on the mkV but not so good on this one. The rear bumper is just really awkward.

Trent is right, waaaayyy too understated and i reckon the Gti looks much better

[team_v]

UPDATE FOR PRESS RELEASE:

The most powerful and fastest-accelerating Golf ever produced, the all-new Golf R, has been officially revealed at the Frankfurt Motor Show. As we informed you in our previous post, the Golf R32's successor replaces the 3.2-liter V6 FSI with a lightly modified version of the Scirocco R's 2.0-litre TSI four-cylinder engine developing 270HP at 6,000 rpm and 350Nm / 258 lbs ft of torque at 2,500 rpm. The Golf R gets a new hydraulic all-wheel drive system that's able to react more quickly than the one found on the R32 while also limiting the torque being channeled through either axle to reduce wheelspin.

According to the German firm, in extreme cases, the system can transfer up to 100 per cent of the torque to the rear wheels if required.

With the standard six-speed manual gearbox, the Golf R can accelerate from rest to 100km/h (62 mph) in 5.7 seconds while with the DSG dual clutch transmission, this figure drops to 5.5 seconds (Golf GTI 210HP: 7.2 seconds). Either way, top speed is limited to 250km/h or 155 mph.

VW says that the new engine that is derived from the Mk V Golf GTI and not the newer unit used on the VI Golf GTI, is not only 35 kg (77 lbs) lighter and 20HP more powerful than the 3.2-litre V6 found in the outgoing Golf R32, but also more fuel efficient as economy rises from a combined 22.0mpg US (10.7lt per 100km / 26.4mpg UK) to 27.7mpg US (8.5lt per 100km / 33.2mpg UK) while CO2 emissions fall from 257 g/km to 199 g/km.

To further improve handling, VW's engineers added new 345 mm diameter front brake discs (rear: 310 mm) and callipers while the uprated suspension that has been lowered by 25 mm gets revised spring and damper rates and new anti-roll bars.

The Golf R features a revised Electronic Stabilisation Programme (ESP) with two stages that has been designed for track use while the electro-mechanical power steering system has also been tweaked to sharpen responses.

The cosmetic upgrades are less spectacular that the ones under the hood with the Golf R receiving a similar treatment to the Scirocco R. Up front there's a new bumper with larger air intakes and LED running lights, and a new black grille flanked by Xenon headlights while at the back there's a newly styled bumper with a black diffuser housing a pair of central exit exhausts and darkened tail lamps.

The gloss black mirror housings and the new sill extensions along with the 18-inch five-spoke wheels complete with 225/40 tires (19-inch wheels with 235/35 tyres are optional) complete the changes.

Step inside the Golf R and you'll be greeted by a pair of front bucket seats finished in grey Alcantara contrasted against high-grip black mesh cloth, a set of aluminium 'R' kick plates while the gloss black accents throughout the interior are complemented by electric blue needles in the tweaked instrument panel.

The new Golf R is set to arrive in European dealerships in December with prices and detailed specifications due to be announced closer to the launch date. VW has yet to make an announcement for the North American market, but from what we've heard, the Golf R will most likely make its way across the Atlantic sometime in 2010.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/09...golf-ever.html

[Manaz]

Why did they ditch the V6 after two R Generations had it?

There was no (affordable/sane) way to keep the 3.2L V6 Euro VI compliant - it couldn't be modified for direct injection.

Turbos are the way of the future - they give you the power you want, with torque curves, economy and emissions that NA engines with similar power figures can only dream about.

[gerhard]

There was no (affordable/sane) way to keep the 3.2L V6 Euro VI compliant - it couldn't be modified for direct injection.

Turbos are the way of the future - they give you the power you want, with torque curves, economy and emissions that NA engines with similar power figures can only dream about.

Umm, not quite correct - the Passat had a 3.2 Direct Injection engine from 2005, and the R36 engine is also direct Injection. The Golf R32 stayed with the port injection for some reason.

So, in theory, an R36 Golf is easily possible, and has been done in the UK by a tuning shop that somehow got hold of a bunch of crated R36 engines.....

But the mood for Turbo is definitely in full swing. Euro V and Euro VI are very hard to achieve with NA engines. Turbo onto R32 gives insane power and torque.....