VW Golf R20 - 270HP, AWD

[dubbed]

That's easy - heavy, and not as eco-friendly as the smaller turbo option.

Back to question 1 - no easy answer as to why AWD would be dropped.

If the S3 engine/running gear is going to be used, will that include the S-tronic 7 speeder rather than the VW DSG 6 Speeder ???

Now that would be tempting - the S-tronic can handle nearly twice the power/torque of the DSG-6

You already answered half of that: heavy.

Plus it's expensive.

[Golf Houso]

You already answered half of that: heavy.

Plus it's expensive.

And its a pain in the arse to maintain...

[Yevvy]

if they ditch an AWD system then there will not be a point buying an R at all, because a chipped, $20k less expensive gti would do exactly the same. so i highly doubt it

[Sharkie]

No AWD means no R20 for me ..... so I'm hoping on it actually happening.

I have no interest in lots of power and FWD only. Look at the latest Motor to see how useless 200+kw atw is in a FWD GTI ....... weight is irrelevant in this instance, traction is everything !!!!!

AND I'm planning at least that in the R20 ....... (and close to that in the Tiguan )

[VWindahouse]

Do you have a plan B in mind Sharkie??

[Sharkie]

Do you have a plan B in mind Sharkie??

Yes ... its called a S3 Sportback .... but if I have to spend $70K to start with I may be tempted into a 135i .....

Alternatively I may just stick with the Tig as the ultimate Q-car and get an Amarok for the wife ....

[dubbed]

Yes ... its called a S3 Sportback .... but if I have to spend $70K to start with I may be tempted into a 135i .....

Alternatively I may just stick with the Tig as the ultimate Q-car and get an Amarok for the wife ....

There's some good little Euro pocket rocket choices!! It'd be tough to choose out of those three...

[team_v]

UPDATE:

No more hiding for the hottest Golf VI that receives the 'R' badge as the first official photos of the car have made their way on the net ahead of Frankfurt Show grand opening. Set to replace the fifth-generation Golf R32, the new Golf R ditches the latter's 250HP 3.2-liter V6 for the Scirocco R's 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder unit, slightly tweaked to produce 270 horsepower and 320Nm or 236 lb-ft of torque.

However, unlike the Scirocco R that keeps the standard model's front-wheel drive layout, the hot Golf is fitted with a new hydraulic four-wheel drive system similar to the one found on the Audi S3.

A six-speed manual gearbox will be offered standard, while a six-speed, twin-clutch DSG transmission will be optional.

From what we have been told (we'll update the story as soon as VW comes out with an official release), with the manual gearbox the Golf R speeds up to 100km/h (62mph) from standstill in 5.7 seconds, while the DSG model is a tad faster completing the same sprint in 5.5 seconds. In both cases, top speed is electronically limited to 250 km/h or 155mph.

By comparison, the FWD 210HP Golf GTI with a DSG gearbox hits the 100km/h mark in 7.2 seconds and goes on to a top speed of 239 km/h or 148 mph.

Classically, the Golf R's chassis has been significantly upgraded with a lowered suspension, new dampers and springs as well as a beefed up braking system.

On the outside, the hot Golf features similar -some could say, even subtle- revisions to the Scirocco R with new bumpers, side skirts, darkened headlamps and tail lights, glossy exterior mirrors, a roof spoiler, a rear diffuser that houses twin exhaust pipes in the center and five-spoke alloy wheels wrapped in chunkier rubber.

Likewise, the R's interior has been lightly enhanced with a pair of front bucket sport seats, a flat bottomed steering wheel and sportier trim.

The newest addition in the Golf family that will be offered in both three and five door bodystyles is expected to go on sale in Europe towards the end of the year, while the model is also slated for a U.S. market debut in early 2010.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/09...-20-turbo.html

AWD, 270HP, 0-100 in 5.5 Seconds, sounds pretty ace to me!
The only thing i don't like is the wheels, vw needs to take some wheel design cues from Holden me thinks.

[Swallowtail]

Noice... goes hard, looks good. Wheels are a bit hmmm... But there's no way it can sound as nice as the V6 in the R32...

[team_v]

I agree completely swallowtail.

The exhaust on the R32's was the nicest note/resonance i have heard from any car.
However, this new engine gives the car much more potential for trackday uses i believe.

The wheels are terrible, look like new RS6 copies.
They need some new wheel designers at vw.
At least the aftermarket wheel companies will be doing well from them.