Volkswagen to abandon DSG for future light cars

[Ryan_R]

Just not in stop-start traffic.

Isn't' that the big flaw?

[Barracuda]

Isn't' that the big flaw?

But that seems to affect Golf's, too. It's not a Polo-specific issue.

[wai]

I think the reason why some people think that the DSG is harsh is in part due to the fact that they don't understand how it works, therefore don't understand how to drive it.

It's at it's smoothest when it's being belted.

Not sure about being "belted" but you do need to be positive with it. If you try and "baby" it, then the control system can end up not knowing quite what to do and this is what causes problems.

After all, a manual clutch is a dry clutch, so there should be no issues with a dry clutch DSG.

It is down to the control system. Essentially, there should be no slipping or partial engagement in anything other than 1st gear. After all, if driving a manual, you would not be doing this. Unfortunately in an attempt to be everything to everyone, VW have chosen to make it too much like a torque converter transmission with the results you see.

[Hillbilly]

Didn't they advise in some foreign market that the 7 spd was not suitable for stop start city driving like in taxis etc.
If I remember correctly it was in some European countries and India

We had the Polo recall done last week and it doesn't feel any different, but then it was ok before they did it anyway

[Ryan_R]

But that seems to affect Golf's, too. It's not a Polo-specific issue.

Yeah I've got a Golf - I meant the flaw of the 'cheaper' dry-clutch DSG

[Barracuda]

Yeah I've got a Golf - I meant the flaw of the 'cheaper' dry-clutch DSG

Both the Golf and Polo use the same DQ200 unit designed by Borg Warner and manufactured by IAV? There isn't such thing as a 'cheaper' version of the box. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite certain that is the case.

[Ryan_R]

4th time lucky...

I meant the DQ200 is the 'cheaper' version of the DSG (compared to the 'more expensive' (to produce and for customers to service) wet clutch models).

[gavs]

Volkswagen - Future light Volkswagens may drop DSG | GoAuto

Next gen Polo GTI, Manual only...?

[Barracuda]

4th time lucky...

I meant the DQ200 is the 'cheaper' version of the DSG (compared to the 'more expensive' (to produce and for customers to service) wet clutch models).

Ohhh! I see what you mean now! Haha, my bad. It was late and my brain had already gone to sleep.

You're lucky and have a DQ250 6-Speed Wet Clutch. It's a shame that the DQ200 is used in all the 77TSI Polo's & Golf's, 90TSI, 132kW Polo GTI, newer Golf 118TSI's, etc...

[Ryan_R]

No mine is the DQ200 as well. Absolutely horrid in start/stop traffic, especially on warm/hot days. Bad enough to make me drive the long way home (adds 30mins) to avoid the start/stop.