GM targeting Golf GTI

[kaanage]

Here are some more pics.

A Vauxhall that actually handles would be a nice change

[mfl]

Here are some more pics.

A Vauxhall that actually handles would be a nice change

yeah, one that doesn't just want to just understeer everywhere !

[Johnbu]

Those who say that Vauxhalls don't handle, have they driven one or have taken Clarkson's view as gospel?

This one should handle very well with the e-LSD and similar suspension setup to the rs250 and focus rs to reduce torque steer & understeer.


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[mfl]

Those who say that Vauxhalls don't handle, have they driven one or have taken Clarkson's view as gospel?

This one should handle very well with the e-LSD and similar suspension setup to the rs250 and focus rs to reduce torque steer & understeer.


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I owned a Vectra JSII v6, with euro spec suspension and expensive Michelin tyres,in the dry it understeered, in wet weather it had terminal understeer, almost as much as a HQ Holden. The AH Astra, company car I had, understeered less, but the primary handling characteristic was tyre scrubbing understeer, it only was an underpowered 1.8l auto. As for the VRX ones yes I am relying on Top Gear and Fifth Gear comments.

[Johnbu]

That's like saying the GTI or R won't handle because the 2000 Passat and 2.0l Golf Mk5 doesn't handle very well.

This new VXR should perform (and handle) well.


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[mfl]

The question was do Vauxhalls handle ?. based on the models I owned/drove no, because I don't like understeer as the primary handling trait, can the VXR models have different handling characteristics yes, it just needs suspension settings/set-up to be significantly different to what Vauxhall does, its a bit like comparing HSV models with run of the mill Commodores or AMG Mercs to every day ones.

[sabloke]

The topic is about the next Astra GTC and in particular about the OPC/VXR models that no one has driven yet. Shouldn't we wait to see how it drives before making any judgments?

[kaanage]

I am (and I think mfl is) saying that I expect that this new Astra VXR WILL handle well with the Hiper Strut front end unlike the current and previous Astra ranges.