Finally a decent Golf GTI for Australia.

[sabloke]

No big deal then... I'd like to see a Golf with something like the 123d engine, meaning 150 kW and 400 Nm 125 kW and 350 Nm is just not enough for a Diesel hottish hatch today, especially when my daily driver has quite a bit more than that already...

[mikepologti]

harden up and do a DPF delete on it!!! 170kw is NOT underpowered by any standards!

170kw? ,..............thaught it said 120kw? have i read wrong here? . where did 170 come from?

[Buller_Scott]

hey mike hows it!

there are a few things to josh's numbers.

first, with a tune, it bumps it up to 140~~kw and however many nm of torque.

but then, you can buy a pipe that bypasses the diesel particulate filter (which is hugely restrictive apparently), and then get the car re-tuned, and put out something in the area of 160~~kw and 460~~nm of torque.

so, with a dpf delete AND remap for dpf delete, you'd be a happy tractor driver.

cheers

scotty

[Manaz]

thaught they would have put a bigger diesel in it. as it stands its underpowered. bit of a dissapointment , i would have liked one of these .

Bigger engine would have added even more weight, which would potentially upset the dynamics.

125kW is hardly weak (and peak power isn't that important except for top end speed anyway) and it has more torque than the GTI, which will have a greater impact on 90% of driving you're likely to do on public roads.

Remove DPF as has already been stated, chip it, I'm sure it'd be quite a weapon...

[gregozedobe]

....I'd like to see a Golf with something like the 123d engine, meaning 150 kW and 400 Nm 125 kW and 350 Nm is just not enough for a Diesel hottish hatch today...

IIRC the hi-po version of the Mercedes 2.1l turbo diesel isn't too shabby either (150Kw and 500Nm ! ).

ATM the best VAG can do in a production diesel is the 2.0l 4 cyl bi-turbo CR TDI in the Transporter van - 132Kw and 400Nm (but the word is it doesn't "feel" quite as powerful as the old 2.5l 5cyl PD TDI engine which had 128Kw and 400Nm). I can't see any reason why they couldn't fit this new engine into a Golf if they felt like it.

[mikepologti]

hey mike hows it!

there are a few things to josh's numbers.

first, with a tune, it bumps it up to 140~~kw and however many nm of torque.

but then, you can buy a pipe that bypasses the diesel particulate filter (which is hugely restrictive apparently), and then get the car re-tuned, and put out something in the area of 160~~kw and 460~~nm of torque.

so, with a dpf delete AND remap for dpf delete, you'd be a happy tractor driver.

cheers

scotty

ahhhhhhhh i see , sorry peeps bit of a noob when it comes to diesels. those are very respectable numbers, just didnt know where those differant numbers came from lol. i drove a diesel golf for a replacement when my car went into being serviced. thats where i got my idea that my next car could very well be a diesel. still not sure which one to get though.

[Buller_Scott]

yeah man, the diesels arent too shabby, and the new cr engines will be good too.

alot of people in the states on tdiclub.com who work their 1.9tdi engines pretty well with new hybrid turbos, .:R32 pipework, mafless tunes, getting rid of the egr, new intake manifold etc etc, and whose cars are pretty quick, many of those guys seem to love the idea of a golf gtd where they can just do a dpf delete remap, full exhaust, then call it a day and start looking at good suspension.

i would too, but im kinda past the point of no return with the polo and complete it. gotta go balls-deep, not half-shaft.

[sabloke]

You're telling me Diesels are not too shabby? My Astra got 122 kW at the wheels and a peak of 459 Nm on dyno last Sunday (video here)
However, getting more poke in a Diesel becomes a very costly affair, think spending close to $100k on a BMW 330d or why not 335d... That's exactly why I'm seriously contemplating jumping into an R in about 9 months from now!

[Buller_Scott]

yeah those astras are gnarly. i've got a diesel polo- just wish i had the pd150 turbo in it, but i dont know who in australia can do rolling road dyno tuning for diesels...

459nm is nothing to laugh at- very, very nice figure. what have you done to it? chip/exhaust?

[sabloke]

Not much done, just a DTUK CRD-T tuning box (available for VW CR engines, too) and a Simota Carbon CAI. About $850 worth of mods. Considering comes stock with 94 kW afw and 320 Nm, that is money well spent I reckon
I was thinking to ugrade the exhaust but since might be selling it in 9 months... However, I am very happy about how she pulls as it is!