Aussie GT TSI: First Drive by caradvice.com.au / CarsGuide / Carsales.com.au

**phaeton** · 17-05-2007, 05:06 PM

The guys at caradvice.com.au have had the 1st Steer of the TSI on Australian roads and there thoughts are

it might just outsell the GTI

http://www.caradvice.com.au/2743/200...-launch-drive/

Specs compared with 2.0 FSI
http://www.caradvice.com.au/2748/vol...pecifications/

**Tim** · 17-05-2007, 05:20 PM

I dunno. its in a weird segment.
If people want fuel efficiency i reckon they will go the 2.0TDI which has similar performance and if they want a sporty car theyre gonna go the GTI for an extra 3.5k.

I know thats how id think anyways

**phaeton** · 17-05-2007, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Tim

I dunno. its in a weird segment.
If people want fuel efficiency i reckon they will go the 2.0TDI which has similar performance and if they want a sporty car theyre gonna go the GTI for an extra 3.5k.

I know thats how id think anyways

True its new tech and sits right inbetween VWs best (TDI & GTI) but the tech is what will make it sell

**briseos** · 17-05-2007, 07:33 PM

TSI not really in the TDI league because of the pure 320NM grunt of the TDI - the immediacy of the TSI would be great, esp if it has any of the urgency of the GTI - but from where i sit (firmly in the drivers seat of 2.0TDi Sportline) I will NOT go anywhere else except into my new Eos if it ever comes!

My perfect car would be twin charged 2.0TDI - can you supercharge a diesel??

**GoLfMan** · 17-05-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by briseos

TSI not really in the TDI league because of the pure 320NM grunt of the TDI - the immediacy of the TSI would be great, esp if it has any of the urgency of the GTI - but from where i sit (firmly in the drivers seat of 2.0TDi Sportline) I will NOT go anywhere else except into my new Eos if it ever comes!

My perfect car would be twin charged 2.0TDI - can you supercharge a diesel??

yup you can supercharge a diesel, but i recon the most relevant model of the GT is the TDI because it offers a diesel performance alternative

**phaeton** · 21-05-2007, 03:41 PM

http://carsguide.news.com.au/story/0...003140,00.html

**phaeton** · 21-05-2007, 04:03 PM

Full Review

http://www.caradvice.com.au/2781/vol...t-first-steer/

gpk_gti · 21-05-2007, 04:39 PM

my opinion is it wont sell that well here.WHY?? because ask yourself how many years did it take for people to realise diesels are awesome here! in europe they have been big since the late 80's early 90's.so when the sheep here see turbo and supercharge they will think only one thing,hassles with servicing and insurance.the unknown factor.
I personally would not buy it unless I couldnt find a 2l tdi.this technology will definately become the main stream in years to come.

brackie · 21-05-2007, 05:44 PM

Yeah, I know, "There goes brackie on about his beloved diesels again..."

But why the petrol motor? Can you imagine the result if they had used a diesel? You'd get the immediate response from the supercharger then the huge torque of the turbocharged diesel.

**gregozedobe** · 21-05-2007, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by phaeton

True its new tech and sits right inbetween VWs best (TDI & GTI) but the tech is what will make it sell

The complication of the new tech is exactly why I wouldn't buy one.

I keep my vehicles for 10- 15 years and I can just imagine trying to find parts and someone to work on it in 10 years time. I'm not a luddite, but I try to keep in the "proven technology but not out-dated" band, rather than the excitement of the "bleeding-edge new technology", particularly when it is my money that is paying for something.

To me, having both a Supercharger AND a Turbo AND a changeover mechanism is just too many things to go wrong, especially when you see what excellent results VW can get from a simple turbocharged 2.0 motor (both petrol and diesel) when they want. Look at some of the hi-po Audis for examples. Getting peak torque at 1800 or 2000 revs from a turbo seems fine to me.

For similar reasons I won't be in a rush to buy a high-torque VW with a DSG for a few more years yet (especially if an ECU tune is looking likely after the warranty runs out). A manual Golf GTI is the current front runner, but I am also interested in the Skoda RS wagon (either petrol or TDI), but I will have to wait for a test drive to decide.

JMHO, others love the excitement of new technology and will think differently, and I wish them all the best.