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Thread: Mk1 2.0 16v abf conversion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golf Loon View Post
    Yes, but the gearbox will still be as heavy as your car and you will have to fit the cable shift mechanism too.

    Plus the massively long cable clutch will be really heavy and will pull through the bulkhead on a Mk1.
    I think what Matt is trying to say is "Use an 020 instead".

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    is that an engine mount to lower the motor?

    i cant remember where i saw/read this, but does the bonnet of a golf 1 have the clearance for the 16v abf manifold? because it's a tallblock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjay View Post
    is that an engine mount to lower the motor?

    i cant remember where i saw/read this, but does the bonnet of a golf 1 have the clearance for the 16v abf manifold? because it's a tallblock.
    The block is only 10mm taller. Valver had/has a Mk1 with a Seat ABF in it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjay View Post
    is that an engine mount to lower the motor?

    i cant remember where i saw/read this, but does the bonnet of a golf 1 have the clearance for the 16v abf manifold? because it's a tallblock.
    Nope, that's what's needed to bolt up the 02A Gearbox to the MK1.

    Tall blocks fit in Mk1s. I have an 8v tall block in one of mine.

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    020 31kg
    02a 38.5kg
    02m 51kg
    info from the net.not much weight difference and 020 could not handle any more power and 02a would be good up to 300hp stock.
    custom mounts and cable+mechanism around $600

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    Actually the 02a is about 25% heavier if you do the maths. 7 or 8 kilos might not "seem" like much but it actually amounts for a fair bit.

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    ok i will take but what about benefits
    is it worth $600
    or if anyone know if there is any cheaper

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    finally started some work on the abf engine today. i remove the p/s pump,a/c compresor,alternator,belts and various brackets etc. in with the new alternator bracket for a test fit and find out that the original alternator can not be used with it. bracket is original vw for abf non a/c. does anyone know what alternator should i look for?

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    vagcat.com it to find out if the alternator is different. if u want an alternative u shoulda bought this a/c delete instead:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96...Q5fAccessories

    i bought one and sure its not 100% pretty but it spins straight and u can reuse everything that u already got.

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    i have find it! it is the following:
    ABF - Non-A/C Mk3 setup

    70 amp non-A/C alternator Spring tensioner
    Bosch part number: AL0185X or 0-123-315-001
    Worldwide Reman part number: 14356 (price as of 2/6/09 is $119.49)
    VW part numbers: 028 903 025 G and 030 903 023 E
    Valeo part numbers: 2541821 or 436363 or 439000 or A11VI66
    Lucas (LOL) part number: A6785

    90 amp non-A/C alternator
    Bosch part number: AL0187X or 0-123-320-002
    Worldwide Reman part number: 14358 (price as of 2/6/09 is $164.49)
    VW part numbers: 028 903 025 P and 030 903 023 F
    ACDelco part number: 321-1712
    Lucas Part number: A6786
    Valeo part numbers: 2541814 or 2541814A or 436443 or 439002 or A13VI123

    Belts that might fit a mk3 non-A/C setup:
    These are six-rib serpentine belts - that's what the 6pk means. Measurements are in mm)

    PROPER belt - Continental 6PK 0894 (this belt has 6 ribs, and it is 894mm long)
    other belts:
    DAYCO 5060390 (it's 6pk by 0990mm)
    DAYCO 0560455 (it's 6pk by 1155mm) and I don't think this is right!
    DriveRite 390K6
    Gates 6708 or K060388 or K060390
    VW part number 999.192.283.50

    Notice the spring:

    That's what tensions the alternator.You loosen the pivot bolt,and the 19mm tension bolt,and let the spring tension the alternator,then you just tighten the bolts and roll!

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