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Tim (golfworx) has thought about it all before!Originally Posted by leo46
From memory, It was a pretty indepth conversion. Raised floors, 4 link rear, custom mounts. tranny tunnel, the lot.
he's the guy you'd want to talk to if you were serious!
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What are the specs of your small block?
If I had a engine like that, I could easily find much, much better cars to fit it into than a VW!
"IF" it makes a true 600hp & isn't a imaginative throw around figure like most engine builders, in a lightweight car like a Torana it will run single digit figures with minimal suspension mods!
Even in a heavier car eg. HG, HQ etc. thats a low 10 sec pass, but only if all the other ingredients are spot on.
Think of a engine, driveline & suspension package/setup as a meal/dinner.
If the ingredients are all spot on, then a meal will taste awesome & tingle all your senses!
But if you have have a mixed bag of crap, or even just one ingredient off, the meal will taste like s%^t!
The same principle applies to drivline packages. Mainly engines!
Last edited by Oneofthegreats; 14-05-2010 at 08:29 PM.
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Yeah mate i know all this i had it in my HR it ran mid 11s on street tyres and bowser fuel. We will see what happens.
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Sorry if I sound sceptical, but a 600hp HR should run high 9's @ approx 130mph!
600hp 350ci on PUMP fuel?
A friends heavier HG with a 308 making approx 440hp ran a very low 11 @ 118mph! On DOT Mickey T ET street tyres
Volkswagenist
check it out
MK1 Audi S4 Bi turbo mid-engined
Volkswagen : MK1 Audi S4 Bi turbo mid-engined project car
Velly
'91 2.0 8v GTI
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Thats pretty cool Velly!
Reminds me of the brown Mk1 with the Porsche 911 turbo engine which the body would separate just behind the front seats a very long time ago.
Just can't find a pic of it!
Volkswagenist
here is the details
CAR magazine December 1980
Bombshell
Italian-Swiss car maker Franco Sbarro has built some extraordinary machines. But this £35,000 Golf packing a 3.3litre Porsche Turbo engine tops the lot.
Giancarlo Fermi reports
Golf GTI’s are fashionable cars in Europe and the most fashionable are the ones painted black. There’s a Gil in Switzerland, owned by an industrialist in Montreux, which is black, but which has gold striping and other changes, all subtle, to set it apart. Two air intakes on the flanks ahead of the rear wheels grab your attention first. Then you notice the tyres — enormous Pirelli P7s on ornate BBS wheels. Look inside and see that there are only two seats — two incongruous red leather armchairs, mounted on polished wood supports — that there is more wood for the dash and steering wheel, and extra dials. One, you notice, says ‘boost pressure’. Look to the back of the cabin and see that where once granny sat there is a platform, extending from the front seats to the rear door at window level. Underneath it, you think, must be a lot of hardware. Come away scratching your head and look for more clues; there, where the badge on the tailgate usually says GTi’ is written S. .. B.. . A.. . R. .. R . . . 0. Yes, this is another creation from the master of the oddball motor car, Franco Sbarro.
This Golf is worthy of the Swiss engineering eccentric. Underneath the boxed-in rear section is a Porsche Turbo engine, all 3.3lltres and 330horses of it. The ‘industrialist’, whose name Sbarro is keeping to himself, paid about £35,000 for this ultimate Q-car. In layout it resembles Renault’s 5Turbo — with a blown powerplant mounted amidships and driving to the rear wheels — but there the similarities end, for the solutions Sbarro has come up with for the one-off are, well, different: like a body which is raised on hydraulic struts
The Porsche engine, transmission and rear suspension are mounted on a subframe, racing car style. The body is fixed to this by four bolts and those hydraulic struts; it’s a system which Sbarro has used before (for his Pilcar) and which he has patented. With the body raised — It looks largely unaltered but in fact has been strengthened by a 132lb tubular frame welded inside — access to the mechanicals is unrestricted. Sbarro says the whole powerplant assembly can be removed in l5minutes. The hydraulic struts have another job: they hold the body firmly down on the subframe — with a force of 7tons.
At the front there are the GTi’s MacPherson struts, completely retuned to suit the 195/15 P7s. Bigger 225 section P7s are fitted at the back, on light alloy wheel carriers with coil sprung A-arms and lateral links; again, racing car style. Brakes are 12.6in ventilated discs all round. The steering is unchanged, although with the altered weight distribution — 60/40 in favour of the rear — it helps to have both seats occupied and the front boot full of luggage to keep the nose down. Loaded like this weight distribution is about 50/50; ideal.
At present the Golf Turbo is running in but soon it wilt goto Germany where, on the motorway at 6000rpm in fifth gear, a true 150mph is expected. At 24251b the VW is 4001b lighter than a Porsche Turbo and it was this which encouraged Sbarro to go for a gearbox with shorter ratios; in the end, the five-speed ZF DS25 box — used in the BMW Ml — was chosen. The priorities, after all, were supercarstyle acceleration but with easy handling in city traffic. It’s because of this slight compromise that the car is not as quick as you’d expect off the mark, reaching 62mph in a very good but not all-conquering 6séc. Later on, however, when the turbocharger is fully on song and the tachometer needle is in the useful 3800-6000rpm band, the Golf gets up and goes, in true supercar fashion. Around town it impresses, too, for the Golf is easy to drive slowly, being smooth and quiet for most of the time.
The Golf Turbo looks as though it goes around bends well and it does: flatly, securely and with those Pirellis hugging the tarmac. The steering is light and the controls easy, and on smooth, dry roads it feels relaxed and comfortable, the handling quite neutral at modest speeds. How it behaves at higher speeds — and in particular the quality of the steering on fast motorways — is something that we’ll have to wait to find out.
Changes to the car include a22gal fuel tank — it does about 15mpg — under the reinforced front boot and those air intakes; Sbarro claims they provide more cooling air to the engine than in a Porsche Turbo. Inside there are those odd seats, assembled as one unit, and the boost pressure gauge, with oil temperature dial and quartz clock, mounted in the space normally taken by a radio; this Golf has a full-ho use hi-fi system low on the centre console.
More than 2oyears ago an American became famous for driving a white VW Beetle from Place de a Concorde to L’Etoile in downtown Paris. Under the Beetle’s bonnet was a ChevroletV8 engine. It started something, and the quest for bigger and better Q-cars, the lookalike tin boxes with the monster muscle, has gone on ever since. Now, however, with Franca Sbarro and a lot of other people’s money they are for the autobahn, not the town. And no doubt this is where the Swiss owner — who Incidentally Intends to use the Golf every day to get to work — will point his blown black bombshell. He will be very fashionable, And he will be very, very fast.
Last edited by velly_16v_cab; 17-05-2010 at 02:20 PM.
Velly
'91 2.0 8v GTI
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that is goddam cool!
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HAHA.
That tops the lot Velly! awesome
I can only remember it as brown!
Thats how old the magazine was. It was faded! bahahaha
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