Wouldn't a DSG vehicle be quicker because it holds boost through the gear changes? Where as the manuals will fall off boost?
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Wouldn't a DSG vehicle be quicker because it holds boost through the gear changes? Where as the manuals will fall off boost?
The DSG is quicker without a doubt - I saw some data from the US on TTS (which is really a pretty Golf R) tested stock & modified by a US magazine - they did Manual vs DSG.
The dsg was always .9 second quicker - .3 of a second on each of the 3 shifts (and I think the Golf R's gearing means 4 changes - so 1.2 seconds difference over the 1/4 mile).
The 1.2 is amplified by the factories ability to cut fuel & keep the turbo spinning - just like a good rally car so 1.5 seconds is where I would put it - no loss of spool, turbo is kept on the boil.
I'm a convert, I have switched all our cars to DSG so we don't get such a hard time about our 1/4 miles any more. I can't wait until we get our new GTI together, its going to kick our old GTI's time out the window.
Jason,
if you are going to split the table up - lets have red cars vs blue cars vs white cars. That make more of a difference than manual vs DSG
Jason, If you are going to split the table - Make it red cars vs Blue cars - Red is an unfair advantage.
1.5 seconds..... think about that for a minute, that implies that a DSG's 12.6 1/4 time is really a 14.1 second quarter in manual form ???. I'm thinking the theory may be somewhat flawed there even if it was carried out in the cars very boring stock form. If that was the result with their testing I think they may need to establish how happy each of the cars were at the time OR they need to get a proper driver .
I'm quite confident our level 2 tuned 6MTs would run a high 12 but certainly not every run like the DSG's achieve
I agree with the colour split
I'm with you Jason, Blue is the Go.
Parso, I would say .9 of a second if you have to average it out on a Golf R, in a manual it's not far from the line so the last one has little effect. I'm only going on my own Golf R's that I have owned putting out the same WHP, almost identical trap speed, but around ~ 1 second 1/4 time difference.
Saying that, DSG software & a higher launch also seems to be netting a few extra tenths (.4 second at least?)
When we get the new GTI ready, I'm going to test that theory again.
Red is faster.........it's just physics
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