16V ABF Gearbox Swop

[Golf Loon]

Finally found the time this week to rip out the 02A gearbox, Huuuuge Flywheel and clutch and vague feeling cableshift mechanism and massively long clutch cable out of our 16v Toledo this week.

In its place I put an 8v 020 Gearbox, with the rodshift and a new clutch cable.

I fiugured the more powerful engine pushing a lighter gearbox with better ratios should improve acelleration somewhat. I think VW erred on the side of caution putting cable shift boxes in the ABF cars, the KR 16v Golfs never had it and were better for it. IMO.

I had a couple of clutches I could have used, but the lightened Mk2 GTI Flywheel and new clutch won the day.

New CVs and Engine Mounts seemed like a good idea too.

Just got it all bolted back together today and WOW

The car acellerates soooooo much quicker, you can chirp the tyres in second and third, and it actually gives people a run at the lights instead of having no power below 3000rpm.

Speedo cable has detached somewhere, so no figures yet, but everyone else was going very slowly on their way home

[h100vw]

Don't throw that flywheel away Matt. I might have a use for it.

I reckon the cable box was better with the ABF in it's natural environment. The outside lane of a European motorway doing at least a ton.

I wonder if the consumption will be affected?

Gavin

[Golf Loon]

Don't throw that flywheel away Matt. I might have a use for it.

I reckon the cable box was better with the ABF in it's natural environment. The outside lane of a European motorway doing at least a ton.

I wonder if the consumption will be affected?

Gavin

I have a couple of those flywheels mate, including a lightened and balanced one.

Yeah the ABF is great over 100kph, which is when it starts to get going. Not much use here though.

Not what the Mrs needs for driving round town either.

We like the car, it is a good size and the boot is awesome, just the gearbox let it down.

I think the 02A box would be good being pushed by a 20VT motor, or a big power 16v. I have the whole conversion kit if anyone is interested.

[Jmac]

Only problem with the 02a was they were bad for crown wheel pins shearing off and wrecking the box had a few do that and the Transporters had a couple do that as well. Never had any trouble with 020 apart from the common 2nd gear syncros. We love em!!

[Golf Loon]

Just an update on this.
The random lightened flywheel I used in the conversion was badly warped and so has shagged the clutch in this car.
I ripped the box out and put a new clutch and flywheel in.
With the box, I this time used a Diesel Box that I think came out of a Mk2, on the advice of a friend.
WOW what an awesome difference, the car has BALLs low down which it never did before. It now feels eager and revs hard to 100kph in second gear.
Just chucked some coilovers and a new timing belt on the old girl too. I`m a bit worried it might be too low.
Pics tomorrow.

[evorobin]

I first read this thread two days ago and I'm like wow this guy doesn't let up, checked the dates now LOL. Yeah matt driving the Seat 16v the box was dire compared to an 020. Mine crunched in second for six years and was still going strong when I took it off and replaced it!

[Golf Loon]

Took a couple of quick pics today.

Damn the car feels low. The Mrs hasnt seen or driven it yet, it may have to have the stock springs put back in

[evorobin]

Doesn't look quite as bad as you'd made it sound tbh although can't remember the 4x4 look it had. I'm guessing it doesn't rub. The biggest pain is gutters and the front lip looks ok in the pic. Any Osteopaths in Cambden?

[Golf Loon]

Long drive today. It catches at the back, front is OK. Ride is a bit harsh for the Mrs Tho. If I go higher at the back, it gets firmer.
Will probably put some springs back in.