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    VR6 owners please help!!

    Hey guys im pretty much new to this and i have recently bought a mk3 vr6 golf 1995 and have a few issues with it.

    Firstly the engine is kind of misfiring/ not 100% sure and i don't know what is causing it it has "brand new coil pack" and "new leads". When the car is idling and you give it a little juice it struggles and chokes until the revs get above 2000. so me and a mate went to go and take the leads off and spark plugs out to have a look. On the second lead we managed to separate the cord from what goes around the spark plug (im not a mechanic sorry). so then we try another one and the same thing happens, we move on to the next ones and they don't want to move, The spark plug remover tool is useless as the plastic is 20 years old almost. so now we have half a lead on a plug and cannot get it out.

    I want to know if anyone has had the same problem/solution with the engine also how much would new plugs and leads be? and were is a good place to get these from thanks in advance.

    Also i broke this VR6 owners please help!!-20140810_175243-jpgWhat is it?? and could i get away with just silicone the pieces back together it looks super glued? if not how much would a new one of these cost??

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    I've moved this to the mk3 section, you will get more answers here.
    The broken bit in the photo is your pcv valve, fairly common to fail as the plastic breaks down over time due to the heat and oil.
    There is a few options.
    Replace it.
    Try to repair it
    Delete it

    Spark plug leads on a vr6 require a special tool to remove them from memory to avoid them breaking
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    Quote Originally Posted by dylan8 View Post
    I've moved this to the mk3 section, you will get more answers here.
    The broken bit in the photo is your pcv valve, fairly common to fail as the plastic breaks down over time due to the heat and oil.
    There is a few options.
    Replace it.
    Try to repair it
    Delete it

    Spark plugs on a vr6 require a special tool to remove them.
    Thank you for moving the thread im new to this site and didnt know where else to put it. Is the valve important? what do you mean by delete it? and i feel like an idiot now knowing that a tool is required. Oh well new plugs and leads cant hurt.

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    It is meant to reduce the amount of oil blown back into the air intake.
    I currently have a straight pipe running through (just to get rid of the oily smell in the bay) but will run a catch can later on to keep things a bit cleaner.
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    Another option for the PCV would be to use a supercheap airfilter on the engine side and seal the hole on the intake piping. This is illegal as it will now vent straight to atmosphere (sorry epa) although it does stop oil dirtying you throttle body.

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    I had the same problem with the PCV, ended up getting a small plastic nozzle, glueing it to the left part in your photo and then clamping it all up. Holds together nicely. It's not essential but oil leaks from it and as well as dirtying your engine bay you can smell it in the car.
    I followed this guide. VWVortex.com - My breather PCV mod

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    Thank you all for the information i though i had broken something serious Much Appreciated

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    If it's the car I think it is, coil pack is definitley new as I bought it the same time as mine (maybe start of the year, and car wasn't really used at all since then). I did exactly the same thing when I first got a VR and broke a lead, they're about $120 odd from ECS Tuning (call supercheap for fun, because they'll want about $650), get ones with a metal plug end and carefully use the tool and it'll all last.

    I had the car booked in with JMac (resident VW specialist), maybe it's worth while taking it to someone like him to get it looked at, I doubt it's a simple ignition issue frankly but I don't know much, the previous coilpack was cracked and that caused it to run like a WRX.

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    I had a similar issue in the first week after I bought my Mk3, and changing sparkplugs and leads did the trick. Try and get the right NGK BKR5EKU sparkplugs if you're replacing them (apparently the copper ones are best if you can get them, but Supercheap could only get the platinum), because they have a different design, and perform a lot better than the normal type ones I put in first.

    The sparkplug tool should work fine, you need to put it over and twist it a bit and it locks into place, and you can pull it out... you might have to play around a bit to figure out, but it's not just a grabby thing, despite how it looks. But some leads don't have the right design for it to work, for instance the Champion ones I got from Repco are like this... and I don't know how the hell I'm going to get them off next time without breaking them. Lesson to be learnt: get the OEM leads (Beru)!

    I think the platinum NGK plugs cost me about $20-25 each, was around $120 all up... Copper ones shouldn't be anywhere near that though.
    Leads were something like $195 but they marked them down from like $410 because the guy thought that was a bit steep but I'd definitely look at ECS Tuning or contact VW dealer about getting OEM ones.

    Here's a handy video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iu9BFLOHzQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolteon View Post
    I had a similar issue in the first week after I bought my Mk3, and changing sparkplugs and leads did the trick. Try and get the right NGK BKR5EKU sparkplugs if you're replacing them (apparently the copper ones are best if you can get them, but Supercheap could only get the platinum), because they have a different design, and perform a lot better than the normal type ones I put in first.

    The sparkplug tool should work fine, you need to put it over and twist it a bit and it locks into place, and you can pull it out... you might have to play around a bit to figure out, but it's not just a grabby thing, despite how it looks. But some leads don't have the right design for it to work, for instance the Champion ones I got from Repco are like this... and I don't know how the hell I'm going to get them off next time without breaking them. Lesson to be learnt: get the OEM leads (Beru)!

    I think the platinum NGK plugs cost me about $20-25 each, was around $120 all up... Copper ones shouldn't be anywhere near that though.
    Leads were something like $195 but they marked them down from like $410 because the guy thought that was a bit steep but I'd definitely look at ECS Tuning or contact VW dealer about getting OEM ones.

    Here's a handy video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iu9BFLOHzQ
    Thanks mate leads just come in today from supercheap they were NGK $144 with new NGK plugs however they are the BKR5EK not the BKR5EKU however plugged them in with the new leads and the stutter is still there however it is only slight and barely can feel it, its about 10x smoother than before. I also notice though getting the plugs in is about the same difficult level of getting them out. I think i may have not connected a lead 100% because it will randomly want to cut out sometimes when idling.

    Other than that new leads and plugs has certainly fixed the problem.

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