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Thread: vr6 color concept info ?

  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceVR6 View Post
    wow, that explains so much. both my rear shocks are blown, and if the rear end hits a bup on one side, it trys to rear steer.
    Well Science, that's the idea, but this has got me a bit puzzled. What makes the wheels toe in or toe out is the load directly applied on each hub. Unless the strut retains some cornering load within itself, the load on the hub will be the weight over the wheel multiplied by the resistance of the wheel to taking the corner.

    If the strut is knackered then it will not retain much load. On the other hand it will decrease the resistance of the wheel to taking the corner. Swings and roundabouts I'm not sure if bad shocks will make the problem worse or not.

    I've tried changing the valving in the strut to help it retain the load longer. Finally that doesn't prevent the toeing changes but it delays the onset of the transition and where there is minor unevenness on the road surface then the delay limits the time available at the wheel for the toe in/out to occur. Where the surface has a lot of unevenness then a smarter solution is still needed.

    In principle, a rear sway bar would probably improve straight line control but there would be a penalty of reduced front grip when cornering and there could be some funny effects at the inside wheel too.

    None of these solutions will get the back wheels pointed the right way when you stand on the brakes to set up for a tight corner. The back wheels will still steer the wrong way and leave you knowing this is the same mob that gave us rear engines with swing axles. On the other hand, the design they gave us sure sticks and steers if the surface is smooth.

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    I suppose the lesson here is to not go crazy on a crap road and to go nuts on a race track
    1996 Golf VR6 Colour Concept Green

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    The back of a VR6 with knackered shocks feels floaty and light. It is dangerous if you go fast. I`d try and get some shocks in there.
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    I've been for cruises with Paul (the owner of the yellow colour concept).

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