MK3 AUTO GEAR BOXES????

**DOUBLECAB** · 05-03-2006, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Golf Loon

I`ve got an auto box from a 80,000km 1995 car that had a front end shunt. The car was perfect prior to the accident, I even drove it home. Yours for $500. 0423 051737 Cheers

Hi Golf loon...sorry I have been slow responding.....daughter is still in shock

and in greater shock after checking her bank balance

Anyway ...just another question re your box....I assume u drove home after the 'shunt' with no probs as I have been told that auto boxes can end up with major probs after a 'accident' due to the impact??

Regards Doublecab

**Golf Loon** · 05-03-2006, 04:00 PM

No, I bought the car from the 1st owner after the shunt and drove it in and out the driveway and round the block several times before taking it apart. It probably started and drove 6 or 7 times after the accident and before I dismantled the car. It looked funny actually, as the car had no front and i had a Mk1 radiator hooked up for testing purposes.

It actually didn`t have a very heavy shunt and it was on the other side from the gearbox. The only thing you need to swop over from your old box is the transmission oil cooler, as this one has a damaged outlet. Its an easy swop and a new one is not expensive if you`d rather do that.

I have a few people chasing this box and wanna get rid of it, as I need the space. 1st in best dressed. I can help with Sydney Metro delivery. Pm me.

**DOUBLECAB** · 25-03-2006, 04:37 PM

Hi Golf loon....just getting round to touching base....gearbox arrived on pallett and is still on pallett.....mechanic has been snowed under....tells us will do job next week.....daughter is spitting chips

Let U know of results when gearbox has been fitted.

Regards....Doublecab.

**Golf Loon** · 25-03-2006, 07:27 PM

Glad it got there safely. It will taste even sweeter when your daughter finally gets to drive her car again

**DOUBLECAB** · 30-03-2006, 04:42 PM

Hi Golf Loon...appears we have a prob with the gearbox....mechanic removed old box from daughters 1995 Golf today and noticed the box is different to your '1995' box.......also the electrics (connections) are totally different..the spare ECU we got off U is also different to the one in the car ....mechanic thinks your box may be a earlier one.

Await your advises.

Doublecab.

**Golf Loon** · 30-03-2006, 04:50 PM

It came out of a 12/95 Car. What are the two gearbox codes?
Do they look the same?
Disregarding the loom, does the gearbox ecu fit into the same connector on your car? Use your loom, my ecu and my gearbox, should be ok.

**DOUBLECAB** · 30-03-2006, 05:35 PM

Hi again Golf Loon.....will get back to U tomorrow after having checked the gearbox codes etc.

Regards....Doublecab

**DOUBLECAB** · 31-03-2006, 08:25 AM

Hi Golf Loon.....

This is what we have....

your gearbox code: C321105AH-AJ

our gearbox code: 01M321105E

Your gearbox has 2 sensor/plug/loom conections on top of the gearbox whereas ours has 4 sensor/plug/loom conections on top of the gearbox.

Our vehicles nos: Engine: ADY 046289

Vin. No: WVWZZZ 1HZSW373023. Built 01/95.

At this point we have not checked that the ECU connections on our loom would 'mate' with your ECU.....however that aside ....it would still leave 2 sensor/plug/loom connections on our loom unconnected to the gearbox and what effect that may or may not have in the running of the vehicle is ??

Btw where is the ECU normally located.....VW tend to changes things around a bit. :roll:

Regards...Doublecab

**Golf Loon** · 31-03-2006, 01:48 PM

ECU is usually in the scuttle panel, near the wiper motor, towards the passenger side of the car.

Can you swop over switches etc, to make the loom work.

Sounds like a can of worms, I hate autos, at least any manual box will do.

**DOUBLECAB** · 31-03-2006, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Golf Loon

ECU is usually in the scuttle panel, near the wiper motor, towards the passenger side of the car.

Can you swop over switches etc, to make the loom work.

Sounds like a can of worms, I hate autos, at least any manual box will do.

Hi Golf Loon.....Yep...looks like we have a can of worms.....because..

1. Have checked with the local VW Dealer/spare parts dept and they advise each auto car can only have a matching auto gearbox change over if the VIN nos of the vehicle comply with the gearbox nos.

2. Changing the ECU (ie putting yours in ) does not gaurantee it will be 'sympatico' with the engine etc ....also at this point no body can tell us if your ECU will interchange with the fittings/connections in our vehicle...VW tend to have differing items/systems in vehicles of the same year/build as we see with your gearbox and ours.

3.As for changing over the (quote) 'switches, etc'..... one of the connections to make it fit to your gearbox would require a hole drilled into the gearbox (without letting the drill filings fall into the gearbox) to fit the sensor/whatever and another hole drilled and thread tapped to bolt down the sensor/whatever.

4. The second additional connector/sensor on our gearbox requires a sensor/whatever to be removed from the bottom of our gearbox and again drilled and fitted to your gearbox.

5. This is all time and money with no gaurantee that our ECU is compatible with the sensors/whatever on your gearbox or that your ECU (if it fits to our loom connector) is going to be compatible with our loom wiring.

6. It appears that unless the VIN nos are matching with the gearbox nos then they are incompatible without performing alterations that nobody can gaurantee will work.

So Golf Loon.....methinks its time to call it quits on this exercise and put it down to a 'learning experience' and you return my money plus $45-00 freight back to you (I will wear the $45-00 freight I paid to get it to me).

I think thats a fair and honest arrangement and I guess my daughter will have to suffer with no car for somewhile (maybe considerable while) longer.

Regards...Doublecab