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Thread: Hakan's VR6 TURBO Build (slow progress)

  1. #11
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    Skip the old GT garrett cast comp wheel turbos. Run a GTX series billet comp wheel as a minimum.

    For about the same price, I would go with precision turbo's new CEA 6262 billet comp wheel, or Comp turbo's Triplex BB 6262 billet turbo. They're pretty much the equivalent to Garrett's GT35 (61mm GT35 comp wheel vs 62mm PTE's 6262 comp wheel).

    Edit: I'd run single turbo purely for economic reasons, not mentioning weight, packaging problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydEn View Post
    Nice. Good luck too you sir. Pm me if you need. An extra hand, obviously never done it but enough research to do so.

    Single gt35 will be best. With a .82ar seems to be the consensus.
    Thanks mate will do but right now I am gathering as much information as possible such as :
    what size injectors ?
    how much to oversize exhaust valves?
    difference between 3 angle and 5 angle valve jobs and the benefits ?
    What size cams for turbo ?
    porting and polishing head ?
    fuel pump?
    Lugtronic stanalone but who would be able to tune it ?
    to oversize pistons or not also if i just get it honed would i still need to get larger rings than std?
    what main bearings to use ?
    what conrods to use i.e H beam or I beam
    i need lots of measuring tools !
    as for Turbo i decided to go with a single Precision Cea 6262 twinscroll
    94' Golf Mk3 Vr6

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    Sounds dope! Good luck with the build and hope theres not too many bumps along the way!
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    UUUGGHH your making me want to keep my VR6

    I'd personally go 2mm oversize intake and exhaust valves, a port and polish, cams from whatever company sells turbo specific cams for a vr6. as far as i know all the bearings a stuff are of roughly the same quality (correct me if im wrong!). Dont know anything about standalone sorry!
    i did a fair bit of work to my vr6 a couple years ago and got all my parts from www.fourseasonstuning.com just select your car and engine like you would on any of those sort of sites and youll see they have HEAPS of stuff for a vr6. the guy who i dealt with has or atleast at the time had a supercharged vr6 and was really very helpful, cant remember his name!
    I went for the oversize pistons, only the cast ones from a european version 2.9l vr6, so only 1mm bigger. i went those ones becausei couldnt justify another 400-500 bucks for forged pistons. after doing alot of research i worked out these engines can take roughly 450-500hp, so if i was ever going to turbo charge mine, which WAS the plan to do a year or so after, i just didnt think it NEEDED pistons that could take more than 500hp, thats just not useable power to me!
    again from what ive read, so dont take this for gospel, if you are going to turbo a vr6 and want to know the 1 thing to change, its the conrod bolts. i hear ARP ones are great, so i got them.

    like i said i havent actually turbo'd a vr6, but that was my plan and i did the full engine rebuild in preperation for that.
    let me know if you have any questions might be able to help
    i like your plans!
    -steve

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    Hate to say this but I'd rather go with Haltech or Vipec than going with lugtronics(which is actually a rebadged VEMS).

    I read through AZ and vortex that tech support/communication with lugtronics ie Kevin Black is pretty bad. So imagine yourself waiting for a week or two..maybe a month just for a tech help from him.

    Pretty sure the recipe for the power you're after are all in vortex tech builds.
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    SWEET !!

    As KI11Z said, lose motivation an deviate off track Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shteifen View Post
    fourseasonstuning.com just select your car and engine like you would on any of those sort of sites and youll see they have HEAPS of stuff for a vr6. the guy who i dealt with has or atleast at the time had a supercharged vr6 and was really very helpful, cant remember his name!
    The guys name is James, really nice. Lost track of how much I have purchased from him in the last 7 years
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    Thanks for your inputs guys I dont think ill ever lose motivation its just my dad keeps nagging me about it telling that it not worth building it , but he cant talk guy used to own a 9sec Kjet gti so im just following his foot steps haha

    anyways i just ripped the pistons out of the block just before and the piston skirts , cylinder bores , conrods look absulutely fine but since im going forged pistons and rods my mum asked if I could make PISTON ASH TRAYS for her so why not , so ill get them chrome plated for the guests.
    I spoke to my machinest (SALIBA ENGINE RECONDITIONERS ) today and they said they are pretty busy but i could take the head or block one at a time so im going to start with the head.I will be buying my parts from my usual places such as fourseasontuning and bahnbrenner, ecs tuning.
    also i decided to get VFengineering engine and trans mounts.
    ap tuning gearsets
    cylinder head shopping list

    Farrea racing valve springs,Locks and retainers and valves
    FERREA COMPETITION PLUS VALVES (VW 12V VR6), F2135PSET (2mm oversize valves)
    FERREA TITANIUM RETAINERS ( VW 12V VR6), E11039
    FERREA VALVE SPRINGS (VW 12V VR6), S10062
    FERREA STEEL VALVE LOCKS (VW 12V VR6), K10059

    027103419 Clutch Kits, Flywheels, APR VW Performance & Audi Oem Parts Source FourSeasonTuning.com. (valve guides)
    Bahn Brenner Motorsport - VR6 Camshaft Set - 258° (turbo camshaft)
    Bahn Brenner Motorsport - ARP Head Stud Kit - VR6
    VR6 Timing chain kit ( dual upper), dualupperchainkitF
    not sure if i need these 35mm/36mm Exhaust Seat (set of 6) [109 168] - $60.00 : Techtonics Tuning, VW and Audi Performance Tuning and Repair Parts

    also port and polish to gasket size and flow checked. after all of that the head should flow pretty good !
    and after recovering from the costs of above i will start on the block god this is going to cost allot awells its worth doing when its vr6 heres a pic of my dirty block and piston

    dont freak out this is after running it under a wire brush
    94' Golf Mk3 Vr6

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    keep head stock for turbo! no need for the over sized valves waste of money.

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    ive got bent exhaust valves so I was thinking of oversizing the exhaust valves
    94' Golf Mk3 Vr6

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