Anyone want to inspect a VR6 with me in Sydney on the weekend?

[cicca_294]

I just don't know how common it is for the clutch and timing chain job to be done around 150,000km, but thats what cicca was saying happened to his one when he bought it within a few months.

what i said was when the clutch goes, you'd be crazy not to do the chains and other stuff, and thats where the money comes into it

[patmould93]

what i said was when the clutch goes, you'd be crazy not to do the chains and other stuff, and thats where the money comes into it

hahaha yeah that's what I meant... So what did you end up having to do from when you bought yours until now just out of interest? Oh well I'm just going to go look at it anyway, if it seems all good there then I'll get it, if not I won't, and if I have to cop the clutch/timing chain combo and if I have no money, looks like I'll be borrowing a terrible looking, terrible to drive base model late 2001 corolla wagon with hubcaps from my parents for a while until I get the money at least it's a low budget solution

[drucejnr]

yeah you'd want to be showing them up, especially the VL calais... Is the calais dumped on 22 inch chrome rims? haha

Bahahaha, I wish mate! He bought it about 4 months ago but has only installed a new muffler/exhaust last week but it sounds awesome! He's going to be doing some engine mods very soon (swapping the piston heads to RB25's from RB30's for "better compression") but we reckon it'll be a waste cause it'll feel pretty much the same.

plus, the VR being 120kg lighter and having 14 more kilowatts, I'd smash the thing.

[patmould93]

sounds like one of those guys ohhh commodore drivers...

[drucejnr]

can I just ask, you say you might not purchase the VR6... is the price the issue?
Like, I know it's the Colour Concept edition but imo, I really don't think paying 6500$ for it is a deal. That's pretty pricey. I'd offer him no more than 6k...

[patmould93]

Nah the price isn't really, I mean, it's right up the top of my budget but the bloke has owned it for 10 years, heater core replaced, only done 151,000km and he seems really legit, car looks very clean, and of course the colour concept is amazing . At the same time I've got my mum coming along who is really good at negotiating so we'll see what happens, but I think 6.5 pretty good. Anyway I'm not going to reply for a while because I should be doing homework, oh I can't wait until year 12 is over...

[drucejnr]

Haha, I know exactly what you mean! Just finished with my English tutor. Half yearly essay on thursday!
Can't wait till it's all over!

[Cuprageous]

Hey,

Yeah I've had a look, but it is 10 grand. I've managed to get Mum to pay for the flight up and if we drive it down, fuel on the way back, so it'll only be costing $6500 plus the 30 bucks to transfer rego and whatever it is to get number plates. This will rape my bank account but I should cash in at my 18th in June so I should be able to afford any repairs or whatever.

Dude, you'll be up for a LOT more than $30!!!!! Here's the process (and costs) involved in buying a NSW vehicle and getting it registered in VIC:

1/ Ensure you get paperwork showing the person selling the car is the owner. An old rego renewal is fine.

2/ They may provide a "pink slip", which is not required as it is only relevant in NSW, but ensure they provide you with a receipt of sale as VicRoads need this

3/ Buy that REVS Certificate to prevent repossession if there is money owning on the vehicle

4/ Drive car back home

5/ Get Victorian RWC - costs varies but is about 1 hour labour plus the required repairs, so say $100 minumum.

6/ Make an appointment with VicRoads for inspection - you need to go to a VicRoads centre and take all the paperwork mentioned above as well as the NSW number plates, confirm with the person you speak with when you phone to book.
Costs will be as follows:

TAC Charge and Rego about $624
Plate fee of $30.60 or $90.60 if you want slimline plates
Motor Vehicle Duty ($8 per $200 vehicle value or part thereof) of $264.

So all up you'll be spending just under $920 at VicRoads.
Stamp Duty((yeap, sometimes you wont even need to bring the car in, all you have to bring is the paper-work, RWC, plates, sticker. just ask the person on the phone)

7/ Hand over NSW plates to VicRoads and get a pink "Number Plates Receipt" from them.

8/ Post a COPY of the receipt to the NSW RTA to get a pro rata refund for the outstanding NSW rego. THe will post back a cheque - I have no idea exactly WHAT they refund as I'm still waiting for mine to come back.

I'm not wanting to burst your bubble, but this is stuff you need to know so you go in with both eyes open rather than get a nasty surprise at the end of it when the car ends up costing $1500 or so more than the purchase price.

With VicRoads, make sure you call them up ASAP after getting the RWC to book an appointment - I had to wait 2 weeks for a date/time that suited me where I fully expected it would only be a couple of days.

Feel free to ask me any other questions regarding the process as it's still pretty fresh in my mind and it may help others as well.

[Cuprageous]

Nah the price isn't really, I mean, it's right up the top of my budget but the bloke has owned it for 10 years, heater core replaced, only done 151,000km and he seems really legit, car looks very clean, and of course the colour concept is amazing . At the same time I've got my mum coming along who is really good at negotiating so we'll see what happens, but I think 6.5 pretty good....

I agree with Druce - don't pay anywhere near $6500. I don't know of anyone who advertises a car for the exact price they want, nearly everyone inflates it because they expect to be bargained down. Regardless of the situation I reckon you could get it for around $5500 - just don't tell him you've from VIC and give him a lowball offer and say you have cash to buy the car right away. A big wad of bank notes often has a strange effect on the seller......

As with any purchase that is a decent sum of money, keep emotion out of it and most importantly be prepared to WALK AWAY. Make sure you give him your phone number first "just in case he changes his mind" but certainly get in your car and drive away.

Private car sales are nearly always a buyers game because it's a major hassle trying to sell, so the seller may be easily swayed by the lure of a quick cash sale......

[patmould93]

Dude, you'll be up for a LOT more than $30!!!!! Here's the process (and costs) involved in buying a NSW vehicle and getting it registered in VIC:

1/ Ensure you get paperwork showing the person selling the car is the owner. An old rego renewal is fine.

2/ They may provide a "pink slip", which is not required as it is only relevant in NSW, but ensure they provide you with a receipt of sale as VicRoads need this

3/ Buy that REVS Certificate to prevent repossession if there is money owning on the vehicle

4/ Drive car back home

5/ Get Victorian RWC - costs varies but is about 1 hour labour plus the required repairs, so say $100 minumum.

6/ Make an appointment with VicRoads for inspection - you need to go to a VicRoads centre and take all the paperwork mentioned above as well as the NSW number plates, confirm with the person you speak with when you phone to book.
Costs will be as follows:

TAC Charge and Rego about $624
Plate fee of $30.60 or $90.60 if you want slimline plates
Motor Vehicle Duty ($8 per $200 vehicle value or part thereof) of $264.

So all up you'll be spending just under $920 at VicRoads.
Stamp Duty((yeap, sometimes you wont even need to bring the car in, all you have to bring is the paper-work, RWC, plates, sticker. just ask the person on the phone)

7/ Hand over NSW plates to VicRoads and get a pink "Number Plates Receipt" from them.

8/ Post a COPY of the receipt to the NSW RTA to get a pro rata refund for the outstanding NSW rego. THe will post back a cheque - I have no idea exactly WHAT they refund as I'm still waiting for mine to come back.

I'm not wanting to burst your bubble, but this is stuff you need to know so you go in with both eyes open rather than get a nasty surprise at the end of it when the car ends up costing $1500 or so more than the purchase price.

With VicRoads, make sure you call them up ASAP after getting the RWC to book an appointment - I had to wait 2 weeks for a date/time that suited me where I fully expected it would only be a couple of days.

Feel free to ask me any other questions regarding the process as it's still pretty fresh in my mind and it may help others as well.

Hang on,

I called yesterday vicroads and they said there's just a $32 transfer of registration, and anyway if I do have to pay the $624 of rego, this guy has it registered in NSW until March 2012, a full year. I'm assuming that the refund would be similar to the rego cost here but I don't really know. And yeah I forgot to mention the stamp duty and plates. The guy has a RWC in NSW (for what that's worth... not a whole lot I hear, but it gives an idea that not much has to be fixed at all, if anything).

Waiting the two weeks for the RWC shouldn't be too bad for me though because I've still got to wait 3 months until I get my P's. So if you take into account the refund (which I don't know how much is worth but I'm assuming it's a decent amount considering a full years worth of rego), then it doesn't look so bad.

I agree with Druce - don't pay anywhere near $6500. I don't know of anyone who advertises a car for the exact price they want, nearly everyone inflates it because they expect to be bargained down. Regardless of the situation I reckon you could get it for around $5500 - just don't tell him you've from VIC and give him a lowball offer and say you have cash to buy the car right away. A big wad of bank notes often has a strange effect on the seller......

As with any purchase that is a decent sum of money, keep emotion out of it and most importantly be prepared to WALK AWAY. Make sure you give him your phone number first "just in case he changes his mind" but certainly get in your car and drive away.

Private car sales are nearly always a buyers game because it's a major hassle trying to sell, so the seller may be easily swayed by the lure of a quick cash sale......

That's really interesting actually... Mum is really good with that kind of stuff so I'm sure she'll help me out, but we'll give the negotiating a shot. I'm surprised about the whole wad of cash thing!

Really grateful for the advice and I'd be happy to hear of any other techniques get that price down.